Doesn't that void the warranty?...;-] David I. ----- Original Message ----- From: <fssturm@unm.edu> To: "College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 5:49 PM Subject: Re: DC Systems on Concert pianos > Jeff, > For a similar reason, I have bent the rods with 4 90 degree bends, to lower the > middle. (I hope that's easy enough to imagine. If not, say so and I'll try to be > more descriptive). I think that's easier than what you are describing. Just put a > rod in a vise and push with your hand. It's pretty soft metal. Of course, > sometimes there isn't even enough clearance for the rods themselves between > beams and ribs. > Regards, > Fred Sturm > University of New Mexico > > Quoting Jeff Tanner <jtanner@mozart.music.sc.edu>: > > > Mark, > > You shouldn't get buzzes with the new rod hangers, tank hangers, or > > vapor shields. I do have a hard time doing between the beam > > installations on Steinway because there is very little clearance > > between the beams and the soundboard ribs. So, I've been cutting the > > > > rods short and rather than hanging the rods above the beams, hanging > > > > them as near the top as I can get them. Takes longer to do it this > > way, but it's about the only way I know of to keep the vapor shield > > off > > the soundboard. > > Jeff > > > > On Tuesday, October 14, 2003, at 11:39 AM, Mark Cramer wrote: > > > > > We've experienced good success with a double-tank system under a D > > in > > > the > > > city's concert hall. > > > > > > I should say good success with the staff, they've been great! > > > > > > Although I haven't fit one to this piano, here's an excellent place > > > > > for a > > > bottom cover. > > > > > > 1.) to isolate the piano from air-flow changes on-stage / > > off-stage > > > > > > 2.) to make the system invisible to patrons in the first row. > > (though > > > it's > > > all pretty black under there anyhow) > > > > > > Both the main stage and the apron have convenient AC receptacles > > hidden > > > throughout. > > > > > > Re: buzzes...I've been meaning to raise this question > > > > > > Has anyone experienced buzzes/rattles from a DC system, other than > > > > > from the > > > tank-support rods? > > > > > > How about from the vapor shields? > > > > > > I've had two Baldwins where the ribs are so close to the beams that > > > > > there > > > was some buzz (I bent the rods down). I have wondered however, if > > it > > > would > > > be good prevention to put some cloth between the rods and tops of > > > beams as > > > prevention? > > > > > > thanks, > > > Mark Cramer > > > BRandon University > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]On Behalf > > Of > > > Jeff Tanner > > > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 10:48 AM > > > To: College and University Technicians > > > Subject: Re: DC Systems on Concert pianos; was: Steinway 45 > > upright > > > > > > > > > I've thought about that idea, but the truck would get in the way > > of > > > rolling the cart under the piano. > > > Jeff > > > > > > On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 11:42 AM, Otto Keyes wrote: > > > > > >> At Banff I rigged up some damp chaser systems on small carts > > which > > >> could be > > >> rolled under the concert grands. Perhaps not as effective as an > > >> "in-piano" > > >> system, but with a long skirt on the cover (could be attached > > with > > >> velcro > > >> strips) it provided some control. These were easy to cobble > > together > > >> (1x4 > > >> frame on casters), and I think it would be worth a shot. When not > > on > > >> stage, > > >> the pianos went in their "box" backstage & the carts went in with > > > > >> them. > > >> Don't know if those are still in use since the new music building > > went > > >> in a > > >> few years back, but they were reasonably effective at the time. > > >> > > >> Otto > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Wolfley, Eric (wolfleel)" <WOLFLEEL@UCMAIL.UC.EDU> > > >> To: "'College and University Technicians'" <caut@ptg.org> > > >> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 8:07 AM > > >> Subject: RE: Steinway 45 upright > > >> > > >> > > >>> This piano gets trucked around a fair amount and lives on a > > large > > >>> union > > >>> stage where people shove things around and ask questions later. > > Also, > > >>> its > > >> in > > >>> a 3,000 seat hall (Cincinnati Music Hall) and I wouldn't want to > > >>> cover up > > >>> anything. They record every concert for broadcast and I'd be > > paranoid > > >>> of > > >>> potential rattles. Do a lot of people out there use DC units > > onstage? > > >>> > > >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >>> Eric Wolfley > > >>> Head Piano Technician > > >>> Cincinnati College-Conservatory of Music > > >>> University of Cincinnati > > >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: Don [mailto:pianotuna@accesscomm.ca] > > >>> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 4:36 AM > > >>> To: College and University Technicians > > >>> Subject: RE: Steinway 45 upright > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Hi Eric, > > >>> > > >>> Why no hope of a DC system with bottom cover? > > >>> > > >>> At 10:12 AM 10/10/2003 -0400, you wrote: > > >>>> to dry out it reverts a devilish false beat capo noise > > monster. > > >>> Unfortunately, most of the concerts are during the dry months > > and > > >>> there is > > >>> no hope of any climate control. > > >>>> Eric Wolfley > > >>> > > >>> Regards, > > >>> Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T. > > >>> > > >>> mailto:pianotuna@accesscomm.ca > > >>> http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/ > > >>> > > >>> 3004 Grant Rd. > > >>> REGINA, SK > > >>> S4S 5G7 > > >>> 306-352-3620 or 1-888-29t-uner > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > _______________________________________________ > caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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