verdigris

[Joe & Penny Goss]

Hi John,
The product is being beta tested by convention purchasers of a neat 3 1/4
inch applicator needle and bottle and the jury still out.
In my own field tests it works similar to protec or slightly better.
The ingredients are a secret Goose Hearder balm mixed with a carrier LOL
Joe Goss
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John D. Chapman" <chapmajd@wfu.edu>
To: <caut@ptg.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: verdigris


> I agree with Fred about moving the joint.  On tough cases I have pushed
> the center pin out about one sixteenth of an inch, applied the protek,
> turned the flange over, pushed the pin back in continuing to one
> sixteenth inch out on the other side, applied the protek, pushed the pin
> back in, then swing the flange back and forth about twenty times.  This
> does not take as much time as it sounds.  But the problem will
> eventually come back.  Replace the parts whenever possible.
>
> Joe, tell us more about Goose Juice.
>
> John Chapman RPT
> Wake Forest University
> Winston-Salme NC
>
>
> On Tue, 17 Jul
> 2001, Fred Sturm wrote:
>
> > I've also had good luck with protek CPL. The trick is to move each joint
> > physically _side to side_. For hammer flanges, bump the birdseye against
> > each side of the flange, for example. Make sure you can feel the bump
> > both ways. Bump it back and forth a couple times. With practice it's a
> > pretty rapid process - grab and do a little nervous jerky jerky. Wippens
> > and jacks similarly. Just applying, or just applying and swinging them,
> > is nowhere near as effective or permanent. Sometimes I reapply and
> > rebump side to side. I won't say it always works on every joint, but on
> > the majority it has. At least for me. And they've stayed reasonably free
> > for a few years so far (after three or four, if the piano isn't used
> > much, the friction begins to show up again).
> > Of course this is a matter of "make it work on a tight budget." If you
> > can replace parts, or if rebushing is viable, by all means do so. I
> > certainly give my customer no guarantee as to how long and how well a
> > Protek treatment will last.
> > Regards,
> > Fred Sturm
> > University of New Mexico
> >
> > Daniel Dover wrote:
> > >
> > > --- You wrote:
> > > My question is this: is there a solution that anyone knows of that
will
> > > attack this vertigris
> > > --- end of quote ---
> > >
> > > Michelle,
> > >
> > > As long as the bushings have not been previously  treated with
anything else, I
> > > have found that Protek does an excellent (and long-lasting) job of
overcoming
> > > verdigris in action centers. I treated some actions years ago that are
still
> > > functioning well. Depending on the severity of the verdigris, I needed
to
> > > re-apply Protek to a handful of parts later on, and perhaps one or two
will
> > > continue to be a bit stubborn. But, overall, I consider the Protek to
be a very
> > > satisfactory solution to the problem.
> > >
> > > Danny Dover
> > > Dartmouth College
> > > Hanover, NH
> >