[pianotech] Sciortino insta coiler.

johnparham at piano88.com johnparham at piano88.com
Fri Mar 23 20:17:30 MDT 2012


Duaine,

The number of turns you need to back out the existing tuning pin depends
on very small variations of how long you cut your wire and exactly how
many coils you make. The number of coils you make, for example, may be
judged by you as the furthest point that you make the coil, which you
may define as 3-1/4 coils. Another technician may define 3-1/4 coils as
3-3/8, knowing that when you release forward pressure the coil will REST
at 3-1/4.

How long you cut your wire can be affected by how hard you pull on the
string after you hook it on to the hitch pin. Do you REALLY pull hard,
or do you apply medium pressure? 

How long you cut your wire is also affected by where you measure: 1. Do
you measure at the front of the tuning pin or in the middle? At the
rear? 2. How do you measure when the tuning pin is VERY close to the
stretcher, making it necessary to bend the wire at a sharp angle to
measure (or do you pull the wire straight from the capo bar above the
stretcher and "eyeball" a vertical measurement to the front/center/back
of the tuning pin for your reference point? If you use this method, is
your head looking EXACTLY perpendicular down on to the tuning pin, or
are you 3/4" off, which will cause you to cut the string at an incorrect
length?)

After a while you will get into a rhythm where you intuitively feel the
variables you need to control to end up with the becket at the same
place on every tuning pin (in a perfect world).

Have fun,
John Parham 

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Sciortino insta coiler.
> From: Duaine Hechler <dahechler at att.net>
> Date: Fri, March 23, 2012 2:05 am
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> 
> 
> That sounds great (about the slot) - now how many turns should I back out the pin ?
> 
> Thanks, Duaine
> 
> On 03/22/2012 09:40 PM, William Monroe wrote:
> > Make a dummy tuning pin - cut a slot in the head of the pin, down to the eye.  Make your coils and then it slides off. 
> >  However, you have to open up the coil anyway to get it on the pin in the piano.  I don't worry about it.  I use a 
> > normal pin most of the time, wind my coils, use an awl to pull out the becket and place it on the pin in the piano. 
> >  Lift and tighten with pliers/vise grips/whatever as you pull it up to pitch.
> >
> > WRM
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Duaine Hechler <dahechler at att.net <mailto:dahechler at att.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     What is the secret of getting the becket out of the hand coiler pin (without messing up the coils) ?
> >
> >     I finally gave it up and learned how to make nice tight coils (around the pin) in the process of string
> >     replacement (with the proper number of coils on the pin)
> >
> >     Duaine
> >
> >     On 03/22/2012 08:58 PM, William Monroe wrote:
> >
> >         Lewis,
> >
> >         No, it is not designed for restringing.  It is designed to aid in single string replacements where the pin is
> >         still in the piano.  It does a nice job, taking only slightly longer than doing it with the hand held coil
> >         maker and pin crank.
> >
> >         ;-]
> >
> >         I bought one when I was in a tool buying mood many years ago.  A few months later, I got a hand held coiler
> >         and never looked back.
> >
> >         William R. Monroe
> >
> >
> 
> 
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