[pianotech] [Released] Re: O.T.- H1B Visas?

[Ed Foote]

Greetings,
   I wrote: "Anybody that wants the ease of government protection has to 
embrace either socialism or communism".

Will writes:

>>You have made a blanket statement here, Ed, which, like a neo-con's 
welfare queen, has no visible means of support.  That statement has no 
basis in fact, even. <<

   I think you are dead wrong.   I didn't say marry them, geez. But, if 
you want government to be responsible for protecting your ability to 
charge more than people that are not under that government who are 
doing the same thing, you have no use for the  "free market".  Call 
protectionism anything you want it, it is still a socialistic 
direction.


>.WHY must I embrace either socialism or communism if I believe in 
SOMEgovernment protections?   Are you saying that IF I believe in ANY 
governmentprotectionism (great or small), THEN it follows that I am  a 
rotten doctorcommie rat?  "the EASE  of government protection".  Are we 
talking about a  bunch ofLiberal Slackers here?I always thought of 
myself as a capitalist.
When we formed this more perfect union that is the United States, it 
wasn't done solely to serve the corporations.  Ed has made no mention 
of the human cost of the unbridled free market that he appears to be 
promoting here.  As Duane and his wife can tell you, those costs are 
real.  Or do they not matter to Ed, whose world seems to be madeup only 
of Winners and Losers?  Will Truitt <<

      You have, in a most sleazy way, reduced the debate to an absurd 
level.  Running to put things in extremes is a cheap way for straw men 
to avoid the more difficult decisions.  The human cost is a sum total 
zero, because every lost job here is a gained job somewhere else.
     And why you would be so presumptive to describe my world as made of 
winners or losers? My world is made of winners, but you haven't any 
idea of what matters to me. I think the American way is to compete, not 
to rely on the government to suppress whatever competition we may have 
to confront.  If someone is willing to outwork you, then you will 
suffer, but don't blame my government for your shortcomings.

Ed Foote RPT