We live in a time where our political discourse has deteriorated so much
that merely claiming that something is true makes it so, if you continue to
repeat it in the loudest possible voice. No need of facts, reason, or logic
anymore. Those pesky facts cloud the false narrative that one is promoting.
(we're not going to let fact-checkers get in the way). So, we have come to
this.
IF, I accuse the (Obama, liberal, Democrat) government of being
anti-business, THEN it must be true that the (Obama, liberal, Democrat)
government is anti-business. That's what is known as circular logic. In
more modern, demagogic terms, Frame and Blame.
"Anybody that wants the ease of government protection has to embrace either
socialism or communism".
You have made a blanket statement here, Ed, which, like a neo-con's welfare
queen, has no visible means of support.
That statement has no basis in fact, even. Our democracy has had various
kinds of protectionism regarding trade and the various forms of immigration
almost since its inception. Since before Karl Marx was a gleam in his
mother's eye.
WHY must I embrace either socialism or communism if I believe in SOME
government protections? Are you saying that IF I believe in ANY government
protectionism (great or small), THEN it follows that I am a rotten doctor
commie rat?
"the EASE of government protection". Are we talking about a bunch of
Liberal Slackers here?
I always thought of myself as a capitalist. Gee whiz, now I'm going to have
to go join some boring cabal and face arrest and execution after President
Romney appoints Michele Bachman Director of the FBI!
Let me remind our dear readers that this H1B Work Visa discussion began when
Duane's wife, for the third time, was replaced in her job by an immigrant
worker on an H1B Work Visa. I have no quarrel with the person who replaced
her - I will assume that he or she is also a hard working person who wants
only to support their family. But it is absolutely legitimate to have the
discussion about how to best serve the COMMON WELFARE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
in terms of the extent and limits of the protections of jobs for American
workers. And that is not an either - or discussion. The issues are
difficult and complex, and take place in a fluid and rapidly changing world.
When we formed this more perfect union that is the United States, it wasn't
done solely to serve the corporations.
Ed has made no mention of the human cost of the unbridled free market that
he appears to be promoting here. As Duane and his wife can tell you, those
costs are real. Or do they not matter to Ed, whose world seems to be made
up only of Winners and Losers?
Will Truitt
-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Ed Foote
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 6:50 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: [Released] Re: [pianotech] O.T.- H1B Visas?
-----Original Message-----
From: Duaine Hechler <dahechler at att.net>
>> to an India(n) company that is infiltrating our IT positions with
workers with an H1B Work Visas. And for another thing, its happening all
over the US and our spiffy government is allowing it to happen, putting
completely qualified Americans out of work. <<
Our "spiffy" government? The one that is accused of being anti-business?
The American way is capitalism as measured by profits.
And now that the the U.S. is a smaller part of a global economy than before,
we have to compete with everyone because WE are buying from everyone.
Anybody that wants the ease of government protection has to embrace either
socialism or communism. Pro-business means that the bottom line is
paramount, and if and Indian firm can do what we do for less, that is where
business will go. It is the American way.
The alternative is more government control of business.....
Ed Foote RPT
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