[pianotech] New List

[Mark Schecter]

Sorry, I had the context of the thread in mind, perhaps it wasn't obvious. I was referring to Duaine Hechler, who was once a member, then dropped, and is therefore self-disenfranchised. Those who pay dues are by definition enfranchised, so my statement really only applied to someone who had quit. If such a person continues to use the facilities, fine, they're made available to all and sundry. But if such a person continues to talk as if they expect their opinion should carry some weight, and they can't stop condemning the facilities they are using to complain, or worse, condemning the organization whose generosity gives them the pulpit they are spewing from (PTG), then at some point I think it becomes necessary to stand up and say, "Sir, if you so don't like it, why do you continue to hang around and complain? Why don't you leave? If you want someone to take your complaints seriously, you should join the organization. But if you want to make the case that the organization and its facilities don't meet your approval, buy an ad somewhere. Don't continue to annoy those whose efforts, time, and money make your participation possible, and expect to be warmly welcomed." 

Now do I make myself clear?

-- Mark Schecter



On Oct 25, 2011, at 5:04 AM, Bill Fritz <pianofritz50 at aol.com> wrote:

> Dear Mark, I think our PTG President just got done talking about ethics and not making statements that are absent data/facts.  If you want to complain about those who do not pay dues, then name them.
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> But according to my.ptg.org, if you search on Paul Williams, he is in fact a dues paying PTG member and RPT.
> I also am a dues paying PTG member, and the St Louis chapter newsletter editor.
>  
> Since you did not mention "who" was not paying in your email, you threw anyone voicing dissatisfaction w/ any issues all into the same category, which shows your general statement is false.
>  
> "Just the facts, ma'am"... 
> Bill Fritz
>  
> From:	Mark Schecter <mark at schecterpiano.com>
> To:	pianotech at ptg.org <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Cc:	pianotech at ptg.org <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Subject:	Re: [pianotech] New List
> Date:	Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:29:26 -0700
> No, and that's the point. Anyone who cares to sign up for a list can avail themself of the resources embodied in the lists, but in my mind, that generosity of PTG doesn't entitle them to unlimited griping rights. 
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> -- Mark Schecter
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> 
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> On Oct 24, 2011, at 6:16 PM, Laura Olsen <ajoyfulsound at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't those self-disenfranchised peanut gallery folks pay dues??
>> 
>> Laura
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>> On Oct 24, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Mark Schecter wrote:
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>>> Two separate issues. I actually don't know the dynamics of who decides and how. I'm just sick of schoolyard taunts from the self-disenfranchised peanut gallery. 
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>>> -- Mark Schecter
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>>> On Oct 24, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Paul T Williams <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu> wrote:
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>>>> But, apparently, we join, and still no vote!
>>> 
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