[pianotech] FW: RE: Stiff WNG?

[Joseph Garrett]

Oops! meant to send this one.

Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
Captain of the Tool Police
Squares R I


> [Original Message]
> From: Joseph Garrett <joegarrett at earthlink.net>
> To: Mark S Burgett <markb at pianodisc.com>
> Date: 10/4/2011 7:10:09 PM
> Subject: RE: [pianotech] Stiff WNG?
>
> I know. However, after a few years, what will be the situation? That is
my prime directive: Longevity.
> Joe
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Mark S Burgett <markb at pianodisc.com>
> > To: <pianotech at ptg.org>; <joegarrett at earthlink.net>
> > Date: 10/4/2011 4:24:36 PM
> > Subject: RE: [pianotech] Stiff WNG?
> >
> > With the CA Gel glue the hammer can be removed very easily with hammer
removal pliers without heat.  I have demonstrated this many times in class.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On
Behalf Of Delwin D Fandrich
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:46 PM
> > To: joegarrett at earthlink.net; pianotech at ptg.org
> > Subject: Re: [pianotech] Stiff WNG?
> >
> > I have only used WN&G action parts with relatively light
hammers--roughly
> > the equivalent of Ronsen 14 lb--and with these hammers the action feels
> > light and crisp. Very controllable. I don't know what it would feel like
> > with heavier hammers. Though I think you're the first person
(technician or
> > pianist) I heard describe the action as "stiff." Next time I encounter
one
> > I'll try it again with that in mind.
> >
> > I've not yet used CA to glue the hammers on but I do see your point.
Still,
> > like most every other difficult servicing and/or repair task we
encounter
> > with pianos, someone will probably figure out a good servicing
technique.
> >
> > ddf
> >
> > Delwin D Fandrich
> > Piano Design & Fabrication
> > 6939 Foothill Court SW, Olympia, Washington 98512 USA
> > Phone  360.515.0119 - Cell  360.388.6525
> > del at fandrichpiano.com - ddfandrich at gmail.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On
Behalf
> > Of Joseph Garrett
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 10:09 AM
> > To: pianotech
> > Subject: Re: [pianotech] Stiff WNG?
> >
> >
> >
> > Perhaps I used the wrong word. Stiff is not exactly what I meant. I have
> > done a side by side of two M&H, one with wood parts and one with the
WN&G
> > parts. The first thing I noted, was a harder, (probably still not the
right
> > word<G>), feel. (my "feel" was similar to the "feel" that I got when
> > comparing the hard front rail punchings to the soft ones.) The main
thing I
> > noticed was a marked difference in tone. Of course, this was one
instance
> > where, supposedly the two pianos were the same, except for the actions.
I
> > know that no two pianos, even of the same manufacture and model, are
"the
> > same". The tone on the wood action piano was "warmer" to my perception.
> > As for future servicing? My first thought would be in the repacement of
> > hammers. I can envision major screwups involved in that process. Why?
The
> > use of CA type glues would be my first suspected problem area. IF, the
> > hammer to shank joint were to fail, in the field...what would be used
to fix
> > it, thinking what the average tech carries with him/her. Wood can be
glued
> > back together, if broken. I'm not seeing that possibility with the
carbon
> > fiber stuff. Probably, I'm not thinking it completely through, or just
not
> > understanding the technology thoroughly.<G> Let's face it, we see all
kinds
> > of damage to our beloved pianos that defies our comprehension.
> > I'm trying to envision repairs of these actions, in that context. 
> > Your testimony of the abuse that the action models have taken is
certainly
> > something to think about. Under those circumstances, they'd have to be
> > "bullet proof", to be sure!<G> Regards, Joe
> >
> >
> > Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
> > Captain of the Tool Police
> > Squares R I
> >
> >
> >