Several months ago, I submitted a far better solution that I am implementing for my Barbershop Chapters' website - I'm the webmaster - called eGroupware. http://www.egroupware.org/ *It fixes a lot of the complaints that everyone is having.* And like most everything else that has been discussed on this list - or better yet - ignored on this list - my suggestion *also* got ignored. SO, even though I'm not a current member, I am another voice to try and get things better. Duaine On 06/28/2011 09:03 PM, Encore Pianos wrote: > Oh, so we have a monthly or yearly fee for a shitty software program that > doesn't work well and sometimes not at all, and the vendor doesn't fix when > it needs to be fixed. It just keeps getting better..... > > So who is going to scream bloody murder at Council for us? Does this mean > that some people are able to act like grownups and acknowledge this is a > huge mistake, and work to find a better solution that meets our needs. > > I don't think that I am being selfish in advocating for Pianotech here. In > many ways Pianotech had become a better resource than the Journal - witness > how many articles in the Journal have been lifted from Pianotech. Is > anybody listening? > > Will > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf > Of Ron Nossaman > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:32 PM > To: pianotech at ptg.org > Subject: Re: [pianotech] Really, really irritated with the New forum system > > On 6/28/2011 6:34 PM, Encore Pianos wrote: >> I have to >> question how much value those who were responsible for setting up this >> system place on the forum, or they would have payed a lot more >> attention to how it was actually being used by us. > Little to none, nearly as I can tell. The change was made for administrative > reasons and benefits. We're just a complication. > > >> No one is willing to say how much this thing cost - did >> we get this program out of the $5 bin at Walmart? > Hardly the $5 bin, and the question isn't what it cost, but what it's > costing. It wasn't purchased outright. It's an ongoing perpetual expense > of (still) unspecified cost, and the entire structure of the PTG is in > the hands and whim of the suppliers of this alleged system. That ought > to be comforting to everyone. > > >> I think that the Forum had become one of the very best resources for a >> great many Guild members. A year ago, it was lively and vital. Not so >> much now. Have they killed the goose that laid the golden egg? Do they >> even care? > Go with what you see. The fact that you fell back on the old soon to be > ditched system to even get a post off ought to be a pretty good > indication of reasonable expectation from the new system. > > Ron N > > > -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ Tuning, Servicing& Rebuilding Reed Organ Society Member Florissant, MO 63034 (314) 838-5587 dahechler at att.net www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com -- Home& Business user of Linux - 11 years
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