[pianotech] Yamaha Hammer Suggestion

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Dave I.- David L..- Ron N -Dave P.- Jim B.-J.D.
  It's impressive how much hammer & voicing savy just got tossed out here in these few brief posts. The truth is that we have more hammer choices than we ever have in my career and yours. 
   We all have a collective amount of voicing wisdom that is critically helpful. The final hurdle is hammer choice for the right piano. Many reading this are saying " yeah But how do you know?" 
   Listen to those folks that have prepped & installed  alot of different brands of hammers and then think for yourself.

    I have hung many sets of hammers that have sounded better than "it's in the ball park". Wurzens felt in C-7s. is...a good choice, as is the Weickert felt either Ronsen or Renner. I have hung many sets of Ronsen & Isaac hammers and done nothing to very little. 

   IMO Along with voicing skills a  good  knowledge to acquire is a study of hammers, felts and construction.  Hammer sampling is a great teacher. Pianos don't' talk but probing the hammers currently on the piano will tell you a great deal about the hammers it will respond well to and that may not be just one style.
 David L.s statement about  intelligent hammer choice, voicing the hammer an as well as the piano and client is in itself another an art form . The finished art is piano tone and music. How cool is that? It's exciting and fun even though we approach it at times with anxiety.
 I am installing a set of Ronsen Weickert felt hammers this week in a C-7 which resides in a fairly large church. I'll keep you posted. The samplings were a good match.
  Glad it's Friday
  Dale





-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Busby <jim_busby at byu.edu>
To: pianotech at ptg.org <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:56 am
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Yamaha Hammer Suggestion


Dave,
This, as opposed to "sounds like hell" right out of the box leads to an easier 
ay of voicing. (IOW, I agree) Ray, Dale, Ari, and some others are getting it 
ight and saving us LOTS of work. (But yes David I., you're right. Work is still 
eeded. Good point.)
Best,
im
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rom: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of 
orritt, David
ent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:21 AM
o: David Ilvedson; pianotech at ptg.org
ubject: Re: [pianotech] Yamaha Hammer Suggestion
OK, I'm guilty of using the expression "sounds good right out of the box".  Let 
e clarify.  By that I mean that the general sound that the hammers give sounds 
ood before any voicing is done.  They are never even throughout the scale, and 
oicing up the treble or bass is to be expected but they aren't like certain 
rands where you have to needle like a sewing machine to get a reasonable sound, 
r the ones where you have to soak in some magic elixir to hear them 5 feet 
way.  I have - seriously - hung some Wurzen felt hammers and not done anything 
o the mid-range hammers.  
dave

avid M. Porritt, RPT
porritt at smu.edu
-----Original Message-----
rom: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of 
avid Ilvedson
ent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:13 PM
o: pianotech at ptg.org
ubject: Re: [pianotech] Yamaha Hammer Suggestion
No offense to anyone in particular...OK?...but this idea that any piano hammer 
an be hung and sounds great right off the bat...well, I've got a problem with 
hat.   I think we need a little more education in voicing...
David Ilvedson, RPT
acifica, CA  94044
----- Original message ----------------------------------------
rom: "John Dever" <jazzman3743 at live.com>
o: pianotech at ptg.org
eceived: 2/4/2010 4:13:11 PM
ubject: Re: [pianotech] Yamaha Hammer Suggestion

>Ari Isaac Cadenza "S" Hammers.
>I just had a set installed on my Petrof
>Nice right out of the box.
>JD
 

From: hoppsmusic at hotmail.com
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 02:49:37 +0000
Subject: [pianotech] Yamaha Hammer Suggestion

>Hello List,
 
I am looking for a suggestion of new hammers for a Yamaha C7.  It will be used 
n a 
small hall (seating less than 300).  The preference would be for as full and 
ich a 
sound as possible with a crisp high treble.  I would hope for hammers that 
ould not 
need extensive voicing immediately.  
 
Has anyone replaced hammers and have any experience or suggestions?
 
Thanks,
 
Steven Hopp
Midland, TX

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