Hi Rob. I've seen it before, and, here's a shot in the dark that you've probably thought of, I wonder if someone poured hammer softener or hardener onto the dampers and hammers? Does the client known if someone did that? Bruce -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of pianotech-request at ptg.org Sent: October 19, 2009 12:40 PM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: pianotech Digest, Vol 12, Issue 163 Send pianotech mailing list submissions to pianotech at ptg.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://ptg.org/mailman/listinfo/pianotech or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pianotech-request at ptg.org You can reach the person managing the list at pianotech-owner at ptg.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of pianotech digest..." Today's Topics: 1. U1 - stained bass strings (Rob Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:31:52 -0700 From: "Rob Mitchell" <tpa2sfr at pacbell.net> To: <pianotech at ptg.org> Subject: [pianotech] U1 - stained bass strings Message-ID: <000601ca50ea$6e137a20$4a3a6e60$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've been working with Yamaha on this, but the best we've come up with is that some sort of atmospheric contaminant is attacking the strings. Thought I would try this group to see if anyone has seen the problem. This is on a 4 year old Yamaha U1. As you can (hopefully) see from the pictures, this is a very unusual phenomena. It looks to be some kind of ink or marker in some very odd places. It occurs on ALL the wound bass strings under the damper felts and at the hammer strike points. For the damper felts, the stain is exactly at the contact point between the felts and strings. For the monochords, the stain wraps around the string. For the bi-chords, the stain is between the strings from the wedge. It's as if someone used ink-soaked dampers and hammers to check for damper contact and strike point. (The hammers and dampers themselves on this piano are normal and show no signs of the stain). The stain is not just on the surface of the coils -- it seems to be all the way into the grooves. Furthermore, both the L and R strings on B1 (as well as some other strings) have the markings smeared from the dampers almost up to the tuning pins. And there is an every-fourth-string marking again closer to the tuning pins. All the strings look completely normal and free of the markings below the dampers. I tried some fine emery paper on a B1 string and the marks seemed to scrape off fairly easily. I didn't want to try anything more aggressive like alcohol, wire brushing or steel wool. The customer's concern is that at a minimum, this diminishes the resale value of her piano and at worst, might be something that would accelerate string wear/breakage. Anyone seen this before? Rob Mitchell Piano Service (415) 994-1030 www.mitchellpianoservice.com <http://www.mitchellpianoservice.com/> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20091019/88d605f0/attachment .htm> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: P1010451.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 165611 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20091019/88d605f0/attachment .jpg> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: P1010453.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 125080 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20091019/88d605f0/attachment -0001.jpg> ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ pianotech mailing list pianotech at ptg.org http://ptg.org/mailman/listinfo/pianotech End of pianotech Digest, Vol 12, Issue 163 ****************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20091019/771d22c2/attachment.htm>
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