[pianotech] Regulation Question

PianoCare2 pianocare2 at bigpond.com
Sat Feb 28 19:12:28 PST 2009


I think my words have been misunderstood. .

First, I was advising Matthew to think more of being a technician whilst
being a technician, not as a pianist. Then to use his abilities as a pianist
to his advantage, as the trained fingers will always more sensitive than the
non trained. My example of Brendal is the finest example.. he was never
satisfied with his voicings until he did it himself or showed the technician
what he wanted. The article in Steve Brady's book is a good one.  Kristian
Zimmerman is another example of a pianist not happy with his piano
preparation.. Does it all himself. With working with pianists, we have to
"translate their talk into our technical language and then solve their
problem, and then reassure the pianist back into their language" At times it
is not easy, and being a pianist is a great advantage. Just last week I had
to explain the differences to a pianist who was selecting a piano for a
concerto performance. He was not interested in key dip, hammer strike
distance etc., he was interested in what it sounds like, and how it would
sound in the venue, and why I was recommending this piano. An understanding
of the pianists ability and personality, the repertoire , venue, size of
orchestra, all helps to collaborate with others a to make a fine
performance.

It is completely obvious that the problem in Matthew's piano is the jack
position.. we agree on that... I was pointing out that the reason he found
the two different results was actually the speed of the jack. The techniques
I described were using different jack speeds. Pianists would describe it
completely different.

The information gained from the keyboard is the only way of finding out what
is going on inside whilst the action is being used. Using different
techniques is a great advantage. That is not the dispute.

To be blunt I was saying.. Find problem. solve problem. We are the fix it
people.

Another way of finding the problem is to push down on the key and place a
finger on top of the hammer at the same time. If the jack is wrong...it will
misfire.....That is in my pre concert check list, with many other non
musical tests. Don't have to be a maestro to do that. Personally I hate
playing the piano around world class musicians. I am definitely not there
for my musical abilities.

Hope this explains

Regards

Brian Wilson

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Sent: Sunday, 1 March 2009 11:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [pianotech] Regulation Question

 

 

 

In a message dated 2/28/2009 6:35:49 P.M. Central Standard Time,
pianocare2 at bigpond.com writes:

Hello Matthew

You are getting pianism confused with being a technician. It is great for a
pianist to be a technician, however sometimes it just doesn't work.

Some of our finest technicians are also extraordinary pianists, and
vice-versa, and use their pianistic sensibility to their advantage--e.g.
Fred Sturm in NM. I would love to hear him chime in on this.

Your technique of playing the key whilst lifting your hand is a proven
pianist technique. As you wrote, it is good for producing the higher volumes
and I have to add that it is a good technique for producing a quality tone
at these levels. Having said that, this technique controls the speed of the
hammer better than just using finger speed. I haven't explained this as
properly as I have wanted, but it will have to do.

The technique used by most technicians whilst tuning is not a technique used
by pianists. All we care about is using the key to use the action to perform
our work. Pianism and tuning do not meet here.The technician uses speed and
weight to achieve tuning stability.. And it produces an awful tone.

Aren't you confusing tuning touch and technical touch? And don't we work for
our pianists? If we can mimic a pianistic touch which gives us information,
even by contrast with the forte or fortissimo blow which creates the
mis-fire, then by that differentiation we can find useful information. The
key works with one touch, and not with another. That, I think, was Matthew's
observation. It made sense to me, since it helped me to visualize the jack
top contacting the knuckle in one way, and in the obvious other way.

So your technicians touch tells you there is a problem in the action. Think
as a technician..... find problem and fix problem.

Use the pianists touch for voicing and playing. Use your pianistic skills to
your advantage after applying the technical knowledge.

Well, no. Use the pianist's touch to create information. And think as a
technician and a pianist if you have both skills. Why would you purposefully
dismiss a domain of information which will help you diagnose problems in the
piano. The keyboard is a data base; it gives us information if we know how
to coax it out. 

 

Again, my bet was on the jack's being too far forward and misfiring on the
heavier blow, but working, just barely, on the lighter "pianistic" touch. I
may lose the bet, but my argument stands. :-)

 

Paul

 

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