Why would length of time since last tuning have any bearing on how you would conduct a pitch raise/tuning? Terry Farrell On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Scott Helms, RPT wrote: > OH! I forgot to mention, Bill, that by having a policy to do 2 > visits on > every pitch raise (for me, about 10c is the "magic number", if it's > been > longer than a year since the piano was tuned), I don't really have to > think too much about the "magic number" in terms of whether I can > get by > with a single-visit pitch correction and tuning in one visit. I > guess I > base my decision on a combination of where the pitch is, and how > long the > customer has neglected service. Of course, if I find a piano that > hasn't > been tuned in more than a year and it's only 5c off, I won't do 2 > appointments. That, in my opinion, WOULD constitute gouging. > > Scott > ------ > Scott A. Helms, Registered Piano Technician > 480-818-3871 > www.helmsmusic.net > > > > > > >> >> Hi Paul, Ah, Vacation!!? Always sounds nice... sorry to bother. >> >> I understand your concern for list "hard" numbers.? I'm just >> looking for some ballpark ideas.? No guarantees.? Rough SWAG's. >> (Scientific Wild Axx Guesses)? Guidelines. >> >> >> >> I get a fair number of "I'm not sure when it was tuned last" answers, >> & I'm in the process of rethinking the "pitch raise & tune" 1-visit. >> >> >> >> And any suggestions or guidelines I can get might give the customer >> (and me) a better tuning... aka break the previous 1-visit into >> 2 separate "standard charge" tunings about 4 weeks apart, >> which are characterized by a pitch raise or two & a rough tune... >> and then a 2nd visit which could be a minor pitch raise & "fine >> tune". >> >> >> >> But I do not want to overwork the customer's budget & good faith. >> >> Thank you very much...?? Bill Fritz >> >> >> From: PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com >> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Clarification Question:? i'll take a pass >> >> Bill: >> ? >> I am on vacation right now and if I have time when I return I'll >> consider >> whether I have answers to your questions. Let me say now that I >> rarely put >> numbers to these things and have found it dangerous and >> unprofitable when? >> giving advice. >> ? >> Also, there is no contradiction between what I said in GR and what >> I said? >> in the post. I pull the piano all the way up (overpulled) on the >> first >> pass? >> every time. It may take another stabilizing pitch pass before >> attempting? >> any kind of decent tuning. Wherein do you see a conflict? >> ? >> Paul >> ? >> ? >> In a message dated 8/25/2009 10:59:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time,? >> pianofritz50 at aol.com writes: >> >> Hi Paul, >> ? >> I very much appreciated our conversations during the Convention >> about? >> this >> subject, and I think I remember you said that one should? pitch >> raise to >> A440, rather than take the piano up slowly over a series of? periodic >> tunings... but I'm a somewhat confused w/ your posting of the? >> following >> vs the >> PTG Convention statement.? >> ? >> I'm wondering if you could please clarify a few points indicated by >> the? >>>> : >> ? >> I know? it's possible to raise the pitch & fine tuning in one visit. >> However, just because you CAN do it doesn't mean that you SHOULD do >> it. >> I personally disagree with this sentiment as a generalization.? It's? >> possible to raise the pitch and adequately tune the piano in one >> sitting? >> if the raise is not ridiculously excessive. >> ? >>>> ? What's the ballpark -xx cents number you're talking about being >> "ridiculously excessive"? >> ? >> It may be possible to raise the pitch and "fine tune" if the raise is >> within a narrow range. >> ? >>>> ? Ballpark -xx cents number for this "fine tune" situation? >> ? >> Concert work often calls for the latter.? Johnny's home piano is >> typical >> of >> the former. And if Johnny is any good, plan on coming back in a >> month or >> so to do a more than >> adequate tuning. Radically flat pianos won't really stabilize for? >> several >> tunings.? >> ? >>>> ? What negative? cents numbers are "radical", that would need >>>> "several >> tunings"... over what period of time? >> ? >>>> ? Maybe one final? question...?? could you provide a >>>> differentiation of >> "adequate" and? "fine tune"... either in "cents" or some other >> quantitative >> answer (aka? stability over time, or whatever) >> ? >> Thank you very much...?? Bill Fritz, StLouis Chapter >> >> > >
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