[pianotech] Clarification Question: i'll take a pass

[pianofritz50 at aol.com]

Hi Paul, Ah, Vacation!!? Always sounds nice... sorry to bother.

I understand your concern for list "hard" numbers.? I'm just
looking for some ballpark ideas.? No guarantees.? Rough SWAG's.
(Scientific Wild Axx Guesses)? Guidelines.



I get a fair number of "I'm not sure when it was tuned last" answers, 
& I'm in the process of rethinking the "pitch raise & tune" 1-visit.



And any suggestions or guidelines I can get might give the customer
(and me) a better tuning... aka break the previous 1-visit into 
2 separate "standard charge" tunings about 4 weeks apart, 
which are characterized by a pitch raise or two & a rough tune... 
and then a 2nd visit which could be a minor pitch raise & "fine tune".



But I do not want to overwork the customer's budget & good faith.

Thank you very much...?? Bill Fritz


From: PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Clarification Question:? i'll take a pass

Bill:
?
I am on vacation right now and if I have time when I return I'll consider 
whether I have answers to your questions. Let me say now that I rarely put 
numbers to these things and have found it dangerous and unprofitable when? 
giving advice. 
?
Also, there is no contradiction between what I said in GR and what I said? 
in the post. I pull the piano all the way up (overpulled) on the first pass? 
every time. It may take another stabilizing pitch pass before attempting? 
any kind of decent tuning. Wherein do you see a conflict?
?
Paul
?
?
In a message dated 8/25/2009 10:59:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time,? 
pianofritz50 at aol.com writes:

Hi Paul, 
?
I very much appreciated our conversations during the Convention about? this 
subject, and I think I remember you said that one should? pitch raise to 
A440, rather than take the piano up slowly over a series of? periodic 
tunings... but I'm a somewhat confused w/ your posting of the? following vs the 
PTG Convention statement.? 
?
I'm wondering if you could please clarify a few points indicated by the? >>:
?
I know? it's possible to raise the pitch & fine tuning in one visit.
However, just because you CAN do it doesn't mean that you SHOULD do it.
I personally disagree with this sentiment as a generalization.? It's? 
possible to raise the pitch and adequately tune the piano in one sitting? 
if the raise is not ridiculously excessive. 
?
>>? What's the ballpark -xx cents number you're talking about being 
"ridiculously excessive"?
?
It may be possible to raise the pitch and "fine tune" if the raise is within a narrow range. 
?
>>? Ballpark -xx cents number for this "fine tune" situation?
?
Concert work often calls for the latter.? Johnny's home piano is typical of 
the former. And if Johnny is any good, plan on coming back in a month or so to do a more than 
adequate tuning. Radically flat pianos won't really stabilize for? several tunings.? 
?
>>? What negative? cents numbers are "radical", that would need "several 
tunings"... over what period of time?
?
>>? Maybe one final? question...?? could you provide a differentiation of 
"adequate" and? "fine tune"... either in "cents" or some other quantitative 
answer (aka? stability over time, or whatever)
?
Thank you very much...?? Bill Fritz, StLouis Chapter 

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