Bill: I am on vacation right now and if I have time when I return I'll consider whether I have answers to your questions. Let me say now that I rarely put numbers to these things and have found it dangerous and unprofitable when giving advice. Also, there is no contradiction between what I said in GR and what I said in the post. I pull the piano all the way up (overpulled) on the first pass every time. It may take another stabilizing pitch pass before attempting any kind of decent tuning. Wherein do you see a conflict? Paul In a message dated 8/25/2009 10:59:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, pianofritz50 at aol.com writes: Hi Paul, I very much appreciated our conversations during the Convention about this subject, and I think I remember you said that one should pitch raise to A440, rather than take the piano up slowly over a series of periodic tunings... but I'm a somewhat confused w/ your posting of the following vs the PTG Convention statement. I'm wondering if you could please clarify a few points indicated by the >>: I know it's possible to raise the pitch & fine tuning in one visit. However, just because you CAN do it doesn't mean that you SHOULD do it. I personally disagree with this sentiment as a generalization. It's possible to raise the pitch and adequately tune the piano in one sitting if the raise is not ridiculously excessive. >> What's the ballpark -xx cents number you're talking about being "ridiculously excessive"? It may be possible to raise the pitch and "fine tune" if the raise is within a narrow range. >> Ballpark -xx cents number for this "fine tune" situation? Concert work often calls for the latter. Johnny's home piano is typical of the former. And if Johnny is any good, plan on coming back in a month or so to do a more than adequate tuning. Radically flat pianos won't really stabilize for several tunings. >> What negative cents numbers are "radical", that would need "several tunings"... over what period of time? >> Maybe one final question... could you provide a differentiation of "adequate" and "fine tune"... either in "cents" or some other quantitative answer (aka stability over time, or whatever) Thank you very much... Bill Fritz, StLouis Chapter From: _PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com_ (mailto:PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com) To: _pianotech at ptg.org_ (mailto:pianotech at ptg.org) Subject: Re: [pianotech] i'll take a pass I know it's possible to raise the pitch & fine tuning in one visit. However, just because you CAN do it doesn't mean that you SHOULD do it. I personally disagree with this sentiment as a generalization. It's possible to raise the pitch and adequately tune the piano in one sitting if the raise is not ridiculously excessive. It may be possible to raise the pitch and "fine tune" if the raise is within a narrow range. Concert work often calls for the latter. Johnny's home piano is typical of the former. And if Johnny is any good, plan on coming back in a month or so to do a more than adequate tuning. Radically flat pianos won't really stabilize for several tunings. Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20090825/bee425b8/attachment.htm>
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