rescale bass strings

[David Love]

I agree with that and I've not used Mapes for other than replacing a string
here and there on a stock item.  My own personal choice for string makers is
JD Grandt.  John is a terrific person to work with, will offer his input
about scale changes I make but defer to my own designs when I want something
done a certain way, fast, very accurate.  There are others, of course.  

 

David Love
davidlovepianos at comcast.net
www.davidlovepianos.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Horace Greeley
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 9:17 PM
To: Pianotech List
Subject: RE: rescale bass strings

 


Hi,

At 08:22 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote:



My experience with Mapes is that if they have the scale in their data bank
they use what they have rather than try and measure what you send them.  I
would be surprised if your original scaling ever crossed the threshold of
consciousness.  It's too bad, I'm sure your scale changes improved that M-it
certainly does benefit from some modifications.


and...Mapes quality is not all that consistent, either.

I'd go with any of the folks David suggested previously before using Mapes.





  BTW, couldn't you have just sent them back after it was clear that they
hadn't done what you asked and then recalculated the thing again?


FWIW, having tried that a several times a few years back and having had
nothing be exceptionally back "luck", I gave up even trying and started
using other suppliers....rather like sending back the lobster bisque...you
never quite know how it's processed before they send it back out to you.

Best.

Horace









 

David Love
davidlovepianos at comcast.net
www.davidlovepianos.com <http://www.davidlovepianos.com/>  
-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [ <mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org>
mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Mark Dierauf
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 8:09 PM
To: Pianotech
Subject: Re: rescale bass strings
 
Except that my version had 8 additional strings and double wrapped
monchords. It was also (deliberately) not identified as an M scale, although
I could see where an alert winder might have recognized that the lengths
matched those of an M scale. I was being facetious when I said that they
rescaled my samples, but they certainly did not duplicate either the
original design or my samples.

- Mark Dierauf

David Love wrote: 
I doubt that was a rescaling.  More likely they just produced the original
scale for the piano.  
 

David Love
davidlovepianos at comcast.net
www.davidlovepianos.com <http://www.davidlovepianos.com/>  
-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [ mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org
<mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org> ] On Behalf Of Mark Dierauf
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 9:19 AM
To: Pianotech List
Subject: RE: rescale bass strings
 
Actually, Mapes does rescale, albeit to their own standards. I sent in a set
from an S&S M that I had laboriously (and successfully) rescaled in the
early 90's. These had been ruined when a student spilled some sort of liquid
on them and I had meanwhile lost the spec sheet for the rescaled strings. I
asked Mapes to copy them exactly and the new set came back with different
core & wrap sizes. All the improvements I had made were lost, and the tenor
wound strings (I had added 4 wound bichords) sounded so poorly as to be
almost untunable. Now I only use them for individual string replacements on
lesser quality pianos.

- Mark Dierauf



David Love wrote: 

Surprisingly, many are:
Arledge, Sanderson, GC, JD Grandt, all
make

 

alterations to scales
routinely.  Only Mapes (that I know of) seems, as
a

 

matter of policy, to abide
by the original designs. 

 

 

 

David
Love

 

 
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From:
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mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On
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pianoguru at cox.net

 

Sent: Sunday, March 23,
2008 8:16 PM

 

To: Pianotech List;
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Subject: Re: rescale bass
strings

 

 

 

Most string makers are not
interested in "rescaling."  They prefer
to

 

"duplicate" bass
strings.  If you really want rescaling, go to
James

 

Arledge.  His web site
will tell you what information they need, or
give

 

them a call to discuss what
you want. 

 

 

 

I have no personal vested
interest in Arledge strings, only experience
with

 

positive results from his
ventures.

 

 

 

Frank
Emerson

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

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