A remedy for Verdigris

[Prof. Euphonious Thump]

Brake part cleaner dissolves it. Of course, if the
action's together you can only blast so much out ( and
the rest gets diluted, and soaks further into the
bushing cloth, and then you relube the acti9on because
you've also cleaned out the orignal lanolin, added
lubes, etc.. ) 
Thumpe

 ) but if you had the wippens out you gould 
--- Barbara Richmond <piano57 at insightbb.com> wrote:

> RE: A remedy for VerdigrisI think he means that the
> center pin would pull the epoxy through the
> hole--then the hole is left to dry before continuing
> with bushing and pinning.  Something like the
> Damaged Bird's Eye Repair contributed by Ed Sutton
> listed in the Tips, Tools and Techniques column in
> this month's Journal (page 9), but using thin epoxy
> to coat the hole (and not trying to build up the
> bird's eye).
> 
> I could be mistaken, though.  :-)
> 
> Barbara Richmond, RPT
> near Peoria, IL
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Alan Barnard 
>   To: pianotech at ptg.org 
>   Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:47 PM
>   Subject: RE: A remedy for Verdigris
> 
> 
>   Interesting. Won't the pin become a rather
> permanent feature of the whippen? Or, by coated, do
> you mean with Vasolene or something else the epoxy
> won't grab onto?
> 
>   Maybe epoxy isn't the only answer: Aren't there a
> variety of wood sealers and waterproofing agents
> that might penetrate and seal the pores and veins in
> that wood?
> 
>   Alan Barnard
>   Salem, MO
> 
> 
> 
>
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>   Original message
>   From: erwinspiano at aol.com
>   To: pianotech at ptg.org
>   Received: 3/14/2008 7:45:02 PM
>   Subject: A remedy for Verdigris
> 
> 
>     Hey all
>    I know ...I know there is no remedy for verdigris
> .... except a new parts transplant... but the other
> day my 83 year old Dad & I were looking a perfectly
> useable set of vintage Steinway wippens except for
> the mild case of creeping green crud so, We were
> lamenting having to toss a beautiful set of original
> Steinway wippens in the trash. We started
> brainstorming how we could solve this given the
> contamination is in the wood.  Now I know many of us
> have re-pinned & re- bushed ...put on new flanges
> etc. & in the end all for nothing as it returns, But
> with a good set of wippens approaching 1000 bucks
> the idea has my attention.
>     I told my Dad I was thinking about how to cut
> out the birds eye & then machine a new insert with
> birds eye & all. My thought was that if the new
> insert was put in with epoxy that this would act as
> a verdigris barrier from entering back into the new
> wood. Then My Pops says "why not just coat the
> existing birds eye with epoxy & slide a coated pin
> thru the hole to seal up the exposed inner wood
> which should prove de a barrier to any further
> contamination". Then pin on new flanges. I thought
> the idea had merit.
>     I mean for a few short hours of pinning &
> coating an original set of beautifully made &
> machined  maple wippens could be preserved & re-used
> at any level of performance required. 
>     How bout some discussion.
>     Dale
>     
> 
>
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