not at all.. I thought John how to tune 5ths in equal temperament.. but not untill i tried it myself.,.. and believe me... this is sucess, i shall ask him to do a recording for u if u like, and u can head for urself.. octaves sounds clean, thirds are just right not sharp at all.. fifths are nice and gentle.... when hes playing with orchestra its another story.. but mostly hes a soloist, and made his sucess after learning ET. pure 5th is crap on a long shoot, take paganini, caprice no 4... play it in ET and then tune pure... guess what will sound better, more gentle and warm... as for compromise... wirthout compromise this world would b an even more chaos.. think bout it... and before u ditch this idea.. take a violin and tuneopen strings... no EDT, i dont use one and i didnt let him either, he had to hear the beats, learn how to control them and make something of them.... obviously fingering had to be readjusted, butjohns is a tall guy, and has big hands, he says its alot easier to finger notes now than with pure 5ths... and no frets involved either.. practice practice practice... m a musician and if i have to ill do it the hard way... dont knock it till u try it girlfriend! All my best, Alicia From: Jlmatt at aol.comDate: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:05:14 -0400Subject: Re: Wives tales ... violin tuningTo: pianotech at ptg.org I think the only way a violonist could play in ET is by putting frets on the fingerboard. But that would defeat the purpose of the instrument. Maybe you mean he is tuning his open strings with an electronic tuner, however as he plays he will still play where the pure intervals are, and when he plays in ensemble, he will instinctively adjust the pitches in pure intervals. You call a pure 5th crappy but to my ear it really is beautiful. And when the professors say "pianos are never in tune" they are right in a way, because what we tuners do is find happy compromises for those 88 fix pitches to get along together. The beauty of an instrument on which you can adjust the pitch as you play is that you can really play in tune, in the moment, in the context. For example you will play a C at a certain height in pitch when it's a fundamental, but if it's a 3rd you will certainly put it a lot lower instinctively. But if that same C is the leading tone of Db, you will then instinctively put it a lot higher. That's expressive intonation. ET is a compromise. Jean-Luc In a message dated 6/29/2008 8:02:30 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, eve_ane at hotmail.co.uk writes: Fortuntely atleast one violinist i heard so far tunes in ET and not that crappy pure 5ths... I thought my significant other to tune his violin in ET, after a year of struggle he keeps thanking me.. says the sound vinally stopped "slicing" his ears and sounds in warm harmony... From associating with them... violinists not only tend to think strangely bout their own instruments.. but worse. rat down on pianos... I was told by him that while he was studying, his professors always said "pianos are never in tune"... and some worse things... Sorry to change the subject, i thought id mention ET. Alicia> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:56:17 +0100> From: ricb at pianostemmer.no> To: pianotech at ptg.org> Subject: Wives tales ...> > "Sadly, it's often pianists themselves."> > Violinists and Bureaucratic Cultural Pamps are also very high on that list.> > RicB> > > > Get Started! = Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on almost anything at eBay.co.uk. Search, bid, find and win on eBay today! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000004ukm/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20080629/b676677c/attachment.html
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