Keyslips making keys stick

[Mark Schecter]

Sorry about the unintentionally blank post. Carry on, y'all.

-Mark

> ------- Original Message -------
> From: "Mark Schecter" <mark at schecterpiano.com>
> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Sent: 6/20/08, 11:09:10 PM
> Subject: Re: RE: Keyslips making keys stick
> 
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> > ------- Original Message -------
> > From: Paul T Williams <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu>
> > To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
> > Sent: 6/20/08, 1:00:11 PM
> > Subject: RE: Keyslips making keys stick
> > 
> > Alicia,
> > 
> > Wouldn't this screw cause a horrible grinding on the back of the keyslip 
> > (not to mention noise) and eventually gouge out the wood when using the 
> > una-corda pedal?  If this customer never uses the una-corda, then I guess 
> > it would work. 
> > 
> > Another thought would be to drill extra screws in from the bottom of the 
> > keybed into the bottom of the keyslip like Baldwins and older M&H's to 
> > hold it rigid.  I've seen as many as 5 screws going into the slip from 
> > underneath....    {+    +    +    +     +}
> > 
> > Paul
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> > A E <eve_ane at hotmail.co.uk> 
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> > 06/20/2008 10:12 AM
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> > RE: Keyslips making keys stick
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> > >From my observation this happens in pianos with a "thin" keyslip, it 
> > seems only logic that it will bend or flex... or whatnot... I crossed a 
> > few pianos.. european pianos mainly that have a heavy solid keyslip (bout 
> > an inch thik), its never been a problem on such pianos... if its wood 
> > perhaps its humidity?
> > About 3 weeks ago i had a problem (it was 96*F with 85% humidity) i was 
> > seriving a Bechstein, skinny keyslip.. its never been a problem, but the 
> > owner called me because the keyslip crowned inward and was jamming the 
> > keys... ive worked withthat piano for 2 years and its never been a 
> > problem... owner said that piano stood constantly next to an open 
> > window... so go figure.. i put a small screw into the front of the 
> > keyframe and adjusted it to keep a nice space...
> >  
> > hope this helps...
> >  
> > Alicia Evans
> > 
> > 
> > From: imatunr at srvinet.com
> > To: pmc033 at earthlink.net; pianotech at ptg.org
> > Subject: Re: Keyslips making keys stick
> > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:03:56 -0600
> > 
> > Hi Paul,
> > A small screw placed at the bottom of the inside corner of a cheek block, 
> > will cant the front and outside of the block,
> > so that the block will push the key slip out away from the keys. Advantage 
> > is that it also keeps the block firmly against the outside arm and is 
> > fairly quickly adjustable.
> > Joe Goss RPT
> > Mother Goose Tools
> > imatunr at srvinet.com
> > www.mothergoosetools.com
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Paul McCloud 
> > To: Pianotech List 
> > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:16 PM
> > Subject: RE: Keyslips making keys stick
> > 
> > Hi, Paul:
> > I've seen a lot of this kind of binding with the keyslip.  Especially in 
> > said brand.  I used to move the keyframe backward (yeah, I know.  The 
> > optimum strike point is lost).  At least the piano would play again.  What 
> > really needed to be done was to plug and redrill the dowel pins in the 
> > cheek blocks and move the blocks forward a few mm's.  Sometimes I put felt 
> > strips on the front of the cheek blocks to shim out the keyslip.  Usually, 
> > on the newer grands, the cheek block has a notch which engages the keyslip 
> > and holds it.  I've tried shimming up the bottom rear edge of the keyslip, 
> > but that does nothing.  I've sometimes also added a small screw to the 
> > front of the cheek block, which can be used to adjust the keyslip without 
> > shims.  I also sometimes sand the ends of the keyslip so it will fit 
> > without binding on the inside of the arms.
> >  Not a huge deal but annoying and time consuming to remedy.  Welcome to 
> > the club.
> >     Paul McCloud, RPT
> >     San Diego
> >  
> > Paul McCloud
> > Service Technician for PianoSD.com
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> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: paul bruesch 
> > To: Pianotech List
> > Sent: 06/19/2008 10:06:57 PM 
> > Subject: Keyslips making keys stick
> > 
> > I've noticed a number of keyslips that bow (crown?) and/or tilt towards 
> > the key fronts, thus causing keys to stick down when played. 
> > 
> > Today I visited a YC TG150 baby with this problem.  I had pulled the 
> > action in it just over a month ago and all was well when I left that day. 
> > Today, I could hardly get the keyslip out (or back in), the ends were 
> > binding so tightly against the sides... much, MUCH harder than last month. 
> >  
> > 
> > I've shimmed a couple of these out now with front rail felts which results 
> > in a nice even gap, but I curious why I'm seeing so many of these lately. 
> > At least 50% are on pianos that I either have not seen or at least not 
> > removed the keyslip in the past. The one I did two days ago had a folded 
> > up business card (current owner's mom's tuner's card from 20 years ago) 
> > already in there.
> > 
> > I've only been tuning for about 3-1/2 years, and I see more pianos these 
> > days, but the incidence seems to be picking up not! iceably. Is this such 
> > a common problem in general? I'm thinking that today's was possibly caused 
> > by increased humidity, except I believe there was a thread recently that 
> > mentioned that expansion isn't really an issue along the grain... and come 
> > to think of it, I don't believe that this keyslip is "wood" anyhow.
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> > Paul Bruesch
> > Stillwater, MN
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