VS profelt and glue adhesion, follow-up

[piano57 at comcast.net]

Hi Dave,

Yes, I want to try a bunch of different things--WD-40, 3 in1, and every type of lubricant I have hanging around the house.  I hadn't thought of Pam, though!  Guess I will since folks can be quite creative and use whatever is around--I was surprised the time I discovered the piano hammers that had fingernail polish on them.  

Thanks,

Barbara Richmond, RPT
near Peoria, IL


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Porritt, David" <dporritt at mail.smu.edu>
> Barb:
> 
> I've heard people swear that silicon made it impossible to glue
> anything.  This would be your chance to test that theory.  Try protec,
> McLube, and I'm sure you have some Pam in the cupboard!
> 
> dp
> 
> 
> David M. Porritt, RPT
> dporritt at smu.edu
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On
> Behalf Of piano57 at comcast.net
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:52 PM
> To: Pianotech List
> Subject: Re: VS profelt and glue adhesion, follow-up
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I wonder what there is out there in the world that would make new
> bushings not stick?  Could it be some other lubricant that someone used
> on the old bushings, or maybe a concoction used for removing old
> bushings?  
> 
> Anyway, I'd like to test a lot of different products--anybody want to
> make suggestions of chemicals I should try?  E-mail me privately if you
> wish.   
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Barbara Richmond, RPT
> near Peoria, Illinois
> 
> 
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: jimialeggio5 at comcast.net
> > Following up on a thread  that was "key bushing miracle stuff".
> > 
> > It was suggested that VS Profelt would negatively effect subsequent 
> > glue adhesion.
> > 
> > I like the stuff, so I decided to do a test.
> > 
> > I just finished making a new set of custom buttons.  So I milled a 
> > couple of extra mortises,  painted VS-Profelt directly into the 
> > mortise and the felt shoulder contact areas, saturated the wood with 
> > the stuff.  24 hrs later glued in some felt as usual (hot hide) with 
> > extra felt sticking out of the mortise so I could get a handle to pull
> on, set the caul and waited overnight.
> > 
> > Tested the glue joint by trying to pull the felt out of the mortise. 
> > Viola!  The glue joint held beautifully, and was stronger than the 
> > cloth itself. picture attached.
> > 
> > Jim I
> > --
> > Jim Ialeggio
> > Grand Piano Solutions
> > advanced soundboard and action redesign www.grandpainosolutions.com 
> > Shirley Center, MA (978) 425-9026
> > 
> > 
> 
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