Tuning Help

Porritt, David dporritt at mail.smu.edu
Tue Jul 22 10:13:48 MDT 2008


Matthew:

 

Another thing to consider is if F3 has very high inharmonicity the F3 -
A3 third will beat slower than normal when the interval is correct.
This is one of the banes of spinets and trying to get a good
temperament.

 

dp

 

 

David M. Porritt, RPT

dporritt at smu.edu

 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On
Behalf Of Paul T Williams
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:02 AM
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Subject: Re: Tuning Help

 


Matthew, 

How do you count your 7bps.  I've always used "from Chicago to New York"
rather than trying to count 1 to 7 in a second.  Before  even playing
the interval, tap out a solid 1 per second beat with your foot, and then
chant the above quote for a few moments and then change it to a kind of
wa-wa-wa in the 7 bps mode.Then set your F/A third.  For the middle
interval,  you might first get the F-3/D-4 (6th) interval to 8 bps. then
the A/C# interval at 9 bps. Then do your F-F octave and check for the
smooth transitions from the F-A; F/D; A/C#; and C#/F.  They should be
respectively 7-8-9-11, but the 7-9-11 may still be easier to hear.
Otherwise it sounds like your doing everything right, just need more
practice.  A Sherman-Clay grand is really a rather difficult piano to
tune, especially if it's really short. 

Don't give up! 

Paul 




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Don:

I agree that the exam list serve would be an excellent place for this
question, but I think that this is also an excellent place for this
question. I'm quite interested in what folks might have to say to
Matthew to help him figure out his dilemma. It's as worthwhile a
technical topic as any.

And Matthew, perhaps if you can get a grasp of beat speeds from
approximately 7 for F3-A, 9 for A-C#, and 11 for C#-F4, this would help.
Balancing them is the trick. 

Paul 


-----Original Message-----
From: Don <pianotuna at accesscomm.ca>
To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 8:23 am
Subject: Re: Tuning Help

Hi Mathew,



Your progression of beats from f3:a3 and a3:c#4 must be wrong if the
c#4:f4

is too fast.



Have you joined the PTG yet? The examination listserv would be a better

place for this question.



At 06:56 AM 7/22/2008 -0700, you wrote:

>And then for my test I would play in

>order F-A, A-C#, C#-F and F-A with a smooth progression of beats.      

>gets way too fast.     I realize I may need to go back a few steps to

>really check what I did previously, but your guidance will be very
valuable

>right now.        Thank you,  Matthew

Regards,

Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.

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