Hi William. Thanks. I suppose I'm going to give this a try for sure. But to be honest, and despite the fact I agree that most of the <<diagnostics>> point to the balance rail (except the fact that there is no movement without the hammer comming into check) point at the balance rail. Problem is ... I'm really good at bedding screws and bedding in general. At both the Hamburg and the Hamamatsu acadamy this was commented on. I know for sure them screws are both in contact with the keybed. I guess I just get the feeling that something else can be causing this hammer bounce that most of us have just guessed at. Hammer rail flex for example, is often brought up... but I've yet to find a diagnostic that can actually confirm those things can get involved, and I dont quite fathom how so much energy gets transfered up there to actaully flex that rail enough to cause the bounce. I'm a bit off the wall this way.... when my head scratches I just cant seem to sit easy.... Like I say... I have run into this only a couple times. I know of two Yamaha (Both C7's) and this Steinway where I cant seem to get the bass hammers to sit easy on fff blows... and all three have this connection to the back checks thingy. So... I suppose try both Ron O's suggestion and Jon Pages support to the letoff rail on the Steinway. One question on the dial thing... tho I suppose its in the article (which I have to dig out anyways).. Different keyframes require different kinds of pressure on each bolt. For example Steinways call for fairly even pressure (partially due to the bowed front rail as I understand it) and Yamahas specify most pressure on the middle and tenor break glide bolt ... creating a bow that way. Does Rons Dial article come complete with a set of specs for different actions ? Cheers RicB Not to beat a dead horse here, Ric, but it seems like your diagnostics are leading you to the balance rail. I recognize that there are still possibilities elsewhere, but perhaps it's time to get that dial indicator after all. ;-] maybe: http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=32525&cat=1,43513,51657 or something of that nature. I'd have to look up Ron O's article, but I assume this indicator would work well enough. Best, William R. Monroe
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