A440 VS A442

John R. Granholm jtuner@qwest.net
Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:26:58 -0800


On Jan 25, 2006, at 9:26 PM, Horace Greeley wrote:

>
> Hi, Ron,
>
> There has been quite a thread on this fairly lately on the list.   
> You might check the archives.  Also, I understand that there will  
> be a column on this in the Journal soon.
>
> There is another alternative, of course, and that is to have a  
> second D...don't laugh, it's been done more than once.
>
> More later, perhaps.
>
> Best.
>
> Horace
>
>
>
>
> At 07:52 PM 1/25/2006, you wrote:
>>  Hi Friends
>>
>> I have the privilege of tuning a Hamburg Steinway "D" 9 foot for a  
>> local large church which is also the home of our local Vero Beach  
>> Symphonic Association and other concerts.
>>
>> For the the church ,the piano is kept at A440 to match a fine pipe  
>> organ. The problem is that we have many concerts that feature  
>> European orchestra's and artists that in their contracts have  
>> asked and/or demanded A442.  It is my understanding that they  
>> think this makes the treble brighter.This would not be a problem  
>> with the exception that every time we have to tune the piano 442  
>> it requires being tuned again to 440 after the concerts. The piano  
>> is then rather unstable for a while
>>
>> I have suggested that there isn't an ear in the world that can  
>> hear the difference between 440 and 442 and that the  Symphonic  
>> Association should just send back the contract with the 442  
>> crossed out and 440 put in it;s place. We have done that this year  
>> with no problem, however, several of our very fine local artist   
>> and customers which are involved with the association are  
>> concerned that it will come back to bite us. I have had times in  
>> my past when a stage manager or other representative of the  
>> artists/orchestra would check the pitch to make sure it was 442.
>>
>> To back up my argument, Last year we had the Prague Symphony  with  
>> an outstanding artist. Along with the usual symphonic program they  
>> performed a Beethoven Concerto.I went up, as usual, prior to the  
>> concert to check on the piano which I had tuned to A442 as  
>> requested. I asked the conductor, "why the 442" to which I got all  
>> kinds of broken english replies and concerns about the piano  
>> having to be at 442 because of the woodwinds and stringed  
>> instruments, etc.,etc.,etc..  Then the 1st violinist came rushing  
>> up all concerned about my question and in a huff demanding that  
>> the piano had to be 442. I calmed them down and told them that  
>> they could rest easy because the piano was at 442. I was just  
>> curious as to why.
>>
>> After a few numbers, It came time for the concert artist to come  
>> forth for the piano concerto.  The 1st violinist walked over to  
>> the piano. She struck an A major chord, walked away from the piano  
>> and probably 5-10 seconds later strummed what she thought was , I  
>> suppose, A442.  The artist came forth, the concerto began and I  
>> sat there with shiivers going up and down my spine as I listened  
>> to a piano at A442 and a orchestra closer to 430 if that.
>>
>> Do any of you other concert tuners have similar  
>> problems,experiences or suggestions? So far we have had no problem  
>> with the season at 440 but as I mentioned before, there are those  
>> local excellent artists that are concerned.
>>
>> I know that A442 is popular in other parts of the world. Steinway,  
>> Hamburg stipulates 442 in their specifications. I also understand  
>> that some instruments such as clairnets, etc are manufactured at  
>> 442.  Is it time to change this standard and tune our pianos to 442?
>>
>> Thank you for your thoughts and input.
>>
>> Ron May, RPT
>> Vero Beach, FL
>>
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