Working while tuning

[David Ilvedson]

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Wedges

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, California






Original message
From: pianotune05 
To: Pianotech 
Received: 1/5/2006 3:58:39 AM
Subject: Re: Working while tuning


HI Dave,
I thought about doing that.  Which felts from pinao tech do you mean, t=
he wedges, or temp strip?
Marshall
----- Original Message ----- 
From: David Ilvedson 
To: pianotech@ptg.org 
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Working while tuning


Why not just use the temperment strip in the tenor while you practice a=
nd work on your temperment.   As you extend into the bass and treble us=
e your rubber mutes.   Also consider getting some of the felt mutes fro=
m Pianotek...expensive but so nice.   Also remember to depress the sust=
ain pedal before inserting the temp strip.  Otherwise you can tear the =
damper wedges...

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, California






Original message
From: pianotune05@comcast.net
To: Pianotech 
Received: 1/4/2006 8:43:59 PM
Subject: Re: Working while tuning


Hi Bob,
Thanks for the note.  When you mention that I might miss feedback durin=
g tuning, what do you mean?  Do you mean feedback from customers, the s=
tore staff, or the piano's various issues?
 
I've thought about trying strip muting again.  The red fel I obtained f=
rom my Poter course is sometimes a pain to work with, and no Joe, I'm n=
ot slamming Randy Potter. I'm just stating a fact since this is the onl=
y temperment felt I have.  I thought about buying that green action clo=
th.  For some reason I have trouble muting in the trebble and getting t=
he loops right in the bass because the bi chord unisons are so close to=
gether, I have trouble knowing which two pare up. The fatness of the st=
rings makes it a challange.  Is crackig the unisons a farely new method=
, or is it popular among technicians?  
 
The good thing about tuning at that thrift store was that I could hand =
out business cards to whomever approached me.  I did have one kid stand=
ing on my briefcase that was lieing on its side.  I kindly told his mot=
her that next time I'll have a tool box for him to stand on.  She yanke=
d him away like an eagle yanks it's prey from its resting place.  I tol=
d her in a friendly way to go easy on him, he just wants to learn.  
Marshall
 
-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: BobDavis88@aol.com 

In a message dated 1/4/2006 7:35:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, pianotune=
05@comcast.net writes:
It's real hard to tune in a thrift store
Marshall,
 
One other possibility: Often pianos wind up in thrift stores because th=
ey have structural problems that make them untunable, such as a plate c=
rack or separating pinblock. Since your experience is limited, you migh=
t miss feedback during tuning which will make this more obvious when yo=
u've tuned more. 
 
As far as the time it takes to tune, it takes as long as it takes. It i=
sn't a matter for either shame or pride. Quality is what matters, altho=
ugh speed is desirable for a number of reasons, including avoiding fati=
gue. Speed comes with experience AND training. While there are specific=
 speed skills that more experienced tuners can share with you, you also=
 just need mileage. 
 
You mentioned losing time muting. Even if you were fully-sighted, I wou=
ld suggest you learn some strip-muting. Especially on pitch adjustments=
, this will save lots of time and fumbling. You can also do things like=
 leaving the tuning lever on the previous pin until you are ready to mo=
ve it. 
 
I don't know if you are a PTG member. It might seem expensive to a tune=
r without much work, but it will be the best investment you can make.
 
Happy learning,
 
Bob Davis
Stockton, CA 

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