---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hi Terry, I actually did that today. I told someone that a tuning doesn't take so long, but due to pitch problems and structural issues, the piano needed more attention, not those exact words but close. I then demonstrated the pitch problem by playing an octave I tuned then playing another that wasn't tuned. One woman said after i played a bad note, "That's what my piano sounds like." I thought to my self, hmm, I know what I"m up against when I tune for her when she calls. Actually, I'll call her in a few weeks if I don't hear from her. She's a realtor and used to persistance. Marshall -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> When I first started tuning for pay, I think maybe some pianos took me up to two or three hours to tune. FAKE IT! Just mumble some things like.... "golly gee whizz, this piano has such tight tuning pins - just takes a little longer to make things just right". Make it seem like the long time you spent on their piano was because you singled out their piano as being WORTH spending a little bit extra time to make things right. As long as the end result is a good tuning, most folks will be thrilled with the "extra attention." Terry Farrell ----- Original Message ----- The tuning lever i'm getting is the schaff 21 with the extension just in case I might need it. When I was using the student hammer, I had to lift the handle in some places in the grand because the handle kept knocking the iron strut, I guess that's what it's called. The pins were loose too, and man one little tweek sent the pitch across town only to return once I sent it back. I always kick myself when I'm tuning too long. what if someone thinks, "Hey this guy doesn' t know what he's doing?" I drove the cashier crazy plunking the keys. Terry and everyone, this piano was so flat, I had to on some occasions notch the pin three four or five times way sharp and match the other strings to it to get it in pitch only to have it fall again. Is it me when it falls, or the piano. I'm careful to get a little above beatless and then gently put it back. UGH!!! I'd love to try out a new piano just once. These old ones a! re about to drive me n uuts. Marshall -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> I'm curious, how long does it take everyone here to tune? It's still taking me 3hours ;( Will a new lever speed me up? I'm real regular at 2 hours for a pitch raise and tuning. Today I tuned a newer K&C (Samick) Studio (first time appointment for piano/client). It was 25 cents flat. Drove up the driveway at 10:00 AM, and backed out the driveway at 12:04 AM. A full tuning on a piano that hasn't been tuned in a year ranges anywhere between 50 and 90 minutes for me - usually about 75 minutes. A good lever will help you speed up - not immediately, but with time. I found that I kept hitting plateaus - I wouldn't get faster for a long time and then suddenly I would seem to leap (or at least inch along) to a new level. I have also found that so much about tuning faster is simply finding peace with what can and can't be done with any particular string/piano. A string that has false beats isn't going to tune cleanly no matter how many times you yank the pitch up and down - the trick is to develop an ability to recognize what ain't going to get any better. Terry Farrell ----- Original Message ----- I'll have to check out piano tech's catelog for those mutes. I didn' t see them in schaff? The metal sticks get in the way especially in the trebble. I'm curious, how long does it take everyone here to tune? It's still taking me 3hours ;( Will a new lever speed me up? Marshall ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/b3/0d/3e/4f/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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