Mose...past tense
Grin...
Hubert
----- Original Message -----
From: "pianotune05" <pianotune05@comcast.net>
To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: mice in the piano
> A mose infected piano is how they might say it if they are speaking inner
> city lingo like
> "yo wat up dog. just chill'n in the crib, and I found a mose in da piano"
> Marshall
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "cook" <cityman1@locnet.net>
> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:21 PM
> Subject: Re: mice in the piano
>
>
> > Lord, now I'm doing it...."mose- infESTED"
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "cook" <cityman1@locnet.net>
> > To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: mice in the piano
> >
> >
> >> Excuse me, Gordon- just what IS a "mose- infected" piano. Sounds dang
> >> dangerous to me!
> >>
> >> Sorry-
> >> Henry Cook
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
> >> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:44 AM
> >> Subject: Re: mice in the piano
> >>
> >>
> >> > If you don't thoroughly clean the interior of the
> >> > piano, you will be putting whomever plays it in danger
> >> > as they, encouraged by the tuning, pound away on it
> >> > and kick up the residue under the keys, and breathe
> >> > it. But cleaning it will put you in danger. Much has
> >> > been written here about mouse-infested pianos, and you
> >> > should check the archives. I was coughing up blood for
> >> > a month once from tuning a mose-infested piano, and
> >> > ended up at the hospital. Beware. If the infestation
> >> > is more than minor, tell her to get a different
> >> > piano, and burn this one.
> >> > Most definitely don't give it to a poor family
> >> > "for their kids to learn on. " ( What rich people
> >> > usually do with infectious, dangerous pianos, in my
> >> > experience. )
> >> > G
> >> > G
> >> >
> >> > --- pianotune05 <pianotune05@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi everyone,
> >> > > I got a call today from a lady who told me that
> >> > > there is evidence of mice in the piano, or past
> >> > > mouse activity. I'm going over to take a look at
> >> > > the piano tomorrow. Actually, she's willing to pick
> >> > > me up. She drives Mercedes, an old one she tells me.
> >> > > If the spelling is incorrect, blame my wife.:)
> >> > >
> >> > > Anyway, I won't do anything with the keys and action
> >> > > of the bridal straps are missing until I learn that
> >> > > repair. However, I want to accomodate her the best
> >> > > I can. She wants it tuned, but a couple of keys
> >> > > will go down but not up. I'm guessing there's a
> >> > > mouse nest in the key bed, however, is there
> >> > > something I can do in order to give that key a quick
> >> > > free up so it will go back up before I learn that
> >> > > bridal strap repair etc? Also, I read in one of
> >> > > our past journals some time back that lavender
> >> > > placed inside the piano helps keep mice away. Where
> >> > > do I purchase lavender?
> >> > >
> >> > > I apologize if this is a question already exists in
> >> > > the archives as one guy on here reamed mb about a
> >> > > while back, but i'ts a lot easier than hunting down
> >> > > an archive. Thanks so much everyone.
> >> > > Marshall
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: Aart in America Piano Services
> >> > > To: Pianotech List
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:15 PM
> >> > > Subject: harpsichord
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi Blaine.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thank you so much for taking the time to compose
> >> > > this very informative and helpful email.
> >> > > The directions you have provided are invaluable!
> >> > >
> >> > > I'll let you and the other good folks on the
> >> > > list know how it comes out.
> >> > >
> >> > > Very best regards,
> >> > >
> >> > > Aart
> >> > >
> >> > > Aart in America Piano Services
> >> > > Hoboken, N.J. 07030
> >> > > 201 406 2594
> >> > > aartinamerica@optonline.net
> >> > >
> >> > > On Feb 16, 2006, at 9:01 AM, Blaine Vesely
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Aart,
> >> > > I get pianotech in digest form and have
> >> > > minimal time to read everything, but your post
> >> > > prompted this email. Don't even worry about taking
> >> > > inharmonicity measurements with a SAT2 since the
> >> > > machine does not go below 2.0 I think. A
> >> > > harpsichord modelled after an old Baroque French
> >> > > Double (sounds like this is the kind you will be
> >> > > working on) will not have much inharmonicity. Just
> >> > > use the 4th octave settings on your SAT to tune from
> >> > > B4 to the bottom of the harpsichord. A4 will be
> >> > > more toward the treble than the bass side of the
> >> > > keyboard assuming a compass of F to F. Probably the
> >> > > second A from the top of the range on the keyboard.
> >> > > When you tune the C5 to top of the keyboard, you may
> >> > > have to insert some stretch alittle, but not much.
> >> > > You can use the individual settings and tune the
> >> > > notes directly, like set machine to D5 and tune D5,
> >> > > D#5 and tune D#5. This gets you in the ballpark
> >> > > pretty much. Then use your ear to test if some
> >> > > stretch is needed. On a French Double, you will
> >> > > have two 8 foots and a 4 foot. I usually tune the
> >> > > top manual. It will only operate one set of 8 foot
> >> > > strings. You must make sure the top keyboard is
> >> > > coupled. Slide the whole keyboard front or back and
> >> > > it will couple the keyboard to the jacks. When you
> >> > > get the top manual tuned, then play the bottom
> >> > > manual. Make sure you only have the second set of 8
> >> > > foot strings coupled, and not the 4 foot. Tune
> >> > > unisons using the bottom keyboard. Usually the 8
> >> > > foot strings are the tuning pins closest to the
> >> > > player. Then turn off the 8 foot (lever that moves
> >> > > the jacks) and turn on the 4 foot and tune. The top
> >> > > 4 foot strings are hard sometimes to hear and you
> >> > > may have to uncouple the top manual and tune octaves
> >> > > with just the 4 foot, usually it is only the last
> >> > > several strings because they are so quiet and high
> >> > > pitched.
> >> > >
> >> > > Concerning tuning pins, if you have to replace
> >> > > a string, you really have to back out the tuning pin
> >> > > all the way if it has tapered tuning pins. If it
> >> > > has what look like miniature tuning pins that are
> >> > > straight, then put coils on a dummy pin and then
> >> > > copy what the other strings look like. I have not
> >> > > done any stringing with pins that have no becket, to
> >> > > if that is the case, you will just have to practice
> >> > > and when you get comfortable with it, go back to the
> >> > > customer. The pins generally for harpsichords that
> >> > > are of a traditional nature are designed to get
> >> > > tighter when tapped in and thus tapered. So take
> >> > > the pin out, put the string in (you might want to
> >> > > take the jacks out) and cut it maybe 8 inches longer
> >> > > than the tuning pin. Copy the way the string is on
> >> > > the pin and it helps to maintain adequate tension
> >> > > when coiling the string on the pin, and drive the
> >> > > pin in the hole. I have also been told that when
> >> > > you bring the string up to tension that you should
> >> > > leave it a little bit under pitch, maybe 50 - 100
> >> > > cents for a few minutes. Someone told me that it
> >> > > does something to the molecules in the iron strings
> >> > > and makes it stronger. Then bring it up to full
> >> > > tension. Oh yes, the low inharmonicity and lower
> >> > > pitch when stringing thing I just talked about
> >> > > applies to instruments with red, yellow brass and
> >> > > iron strings. If you know that the instrument has
> >> > > steel strings or has strings that are wound, then
> >> > > there is probably more inharmonicity and will need
> >> > > some stretch eventually in tuning. One way to tell
> >> > > iron from steel is that when you bend or kink iron,
> >> > > it will be easier to bend and will give you a
> >> > > definite kink. Steel is harder to put a kink in it.
> >> > >
> >> > > Some fast thoughts, have fun with it.
> >> > >
> >> > > Blaine Vesely, Piano Technician
> >> > > Kent State University
> >> > > School of Music
> >> > > Kent, Ohio 44242
> >> > > office: 330-672-2898
> >> > > fax: 330-672-7837
> >> > > email: bvesely@kent.edu
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
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