temperaments - choosing ? stretched ? not stretched ?

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Hi Andrew,
Thanks, that gives me piece of mind and peace of mind. :) 
Marshall

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From: Andrew and Rebeca Anderson <anrebe@sbcglobal.net> 

> Sounds like you are doing something right, Marshall. 
> 
> Andrew Anderson 
> At 06:31 PM 2/12/2006, you wrote: 
> >I'm curious, speaking of hight notes on the piano. Is that a good 
> >sign that a tuning is a good tuning when the piano has that bright 
> >clear ring sound in the trebble? I tuned a spinit last week that 
> >sounded louder according to one of the volunteers at the nursing 
> >home where I tuned. In fact, I have a customer tomorrow who works 
> >there and reports that it sounded tinny before, but I mentioned 
> >resonants, blame spelling on my wife if incorrect. ;) Anyway, my 
> >tuning of a grand piano yesterday revealed that the trebble sounded 
> >louder, brighter and full of a crisp clear ring sound. Does this 
> >represent anything in particular? 
> >Marshall 
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Maggie Jusiel" 
> >To: 
> >Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 6:42 PM 
> >Subject: Re: temperaments - choosing ? stretched ? not stretched ? 
> > 
> > 
> >>Hi Philippe, 
> >> 
> >> I'd like to share some of my experiences with this topic, but would 
> >>first like to point out that I'm still in the learning process. ;) 
> >> 
> >> I was learning aurally first, but didn't get lots of the details I 
> >>needed and didn't have good pianos to practice on. I never got to the 
> >>point where I trusted myself, so I use TuneLab. However, if I set a 
> >>temperament with TuneLab, then tune the rest of the piano to that, I get 
> >>a very nice tuning with an interesting characteristic... I will tune 
> >>the upper octaves to what I hear as being "pure" with no beats, but will 
> >>end up with a stretch that is anywhere from 10 cents to 40 cents 
> >>stretched (according to TuneLab). I believe this to be my ear hearing 
> >>more of the harmonics instead of the fundamental, and lining those up. 
> >>The end result is always satisfying, so I go with it. The variation 
> >>from piano to piano points out that each piano is different, and putting 
> >>a "stretch" on it should line up harmonics, not just must make the top 
> >>end sharp. Too much of a stretch is just as bad as not enough. Even 
> >>two pianos of the same model can end up different depending on how they 
> >>were taken care of over the years. 
> >> 
> >> I'm not sure if others have this same experience. I do know that I had 
> >>my hearing tested and had a deficit in the lower registers, but was off 
> >>the charts in what I could hear in the higher registers. I have a 
> >>feeling most tuners could hear what I am hearing, though. 
> >> 
> >> Last thing... I've found that many tuners start out setting equal 
> >>temperament, but end up with a variation of a mean-tone temperament, 
> >>which works just fine. 
> >> 
> >> ...hope this was helpful... :D 
> >> 
> >>-mags 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>Maggie Jusiel 
> >>Piano Tuner 
> >>Winds & Strings Teacher 
> >>PO Box 1234 
> >>Athens, WV 24712-1234 
> >>(304)952-8615 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>>Hi all, 
> >>> 
> >>>I'm currently studying temperaments, and I wonder if a tuner always use a 
> >>>stretched temperament, 
> >>>especially since this doesn't seems quite compatible with the use of 
> >>>electronic tuning devices. 
> >>>(for the not aural tuners...) 
> >>> 
> >>>This question, especially since I've a CD with reference tones for a 
> >>>stretched temperament, which 
> >>>seems quite strange since a stretched temperament should depend on the 
> >>>kind of piano, shouldn't 
> >>>they ? So what ? 
> >>> 
> >>>subsidiary question : as a tuner, do you prefer to use equal temperament ? 
> >>>or do you prefer to use 
> >>>another one ? (which one) ... Or do your clients often have their specific 
> >>>requests ? (in this case 
> >>>what are you commonly asked ?) 
> >>> 
> >>>Philippe Errembault 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>Maggie Jusiel 
> >>Piano Tuner 
> >>Winds & Strings Teacher 
> >>PO Box 1234 
> >>Athens, WV 24712-1234 
> >>(304)952-8615 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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