440 vs 442

[Avery]

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Actually, Dave, the question is that there is a "singer" who wants 
442? Most of them hate it. Especially Sopranos & Tenors!

Avery

At 06:56 AM 2/8/2006, you wrote:
>Ron:
>
>There are several people here who can tell 440 from 442.  It's not 
>that uncommon.  We have a soprano here who always wants her piano at 
>442 (a singer who can tell pitch that well?!?!?!?!?).
>
>dp
>
>David M. Porritt
><mailto:dporritt@smu.edu>dporritt@smu.edu
>
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>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] 
>On Behalf Of RON MAY, RPT
>Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 8:45 PM
>To: joegarrett@earthlink.net; Pianotech List
>Subject: Re: 440 vs 442
>
>Hi Joe
>
>I'm sorry but I still would have to see it to believe it. He would 
>have to play a couple more pianos for me. I have had occasions where 
>the artist or stage manager pulled out a meter and checked the 
>pitch.  Are you sure he didn't have one. 2 cps out of 440cps, 4 cps 
>out of 880cps 8 cps out of 1760. I'm sorry Joe,you will have a hard 
>time convincing me.
>
>Thanks anyway for the contribution on A440. I am collecting ideas 
>and back up for the Symphonic Assoc.
>
>Ron May
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net>Joseph Garrett
>To: <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech
>Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:14 PM
>Subject: Re: 440 vs 442
>
>Mr May said: "I have suggested that there isn't an ear in the world 
>that can hear the difference between 440 and 442 "
>
>NOT! I've personally had experiences where the Artist knew damned 
>well what pitch the piano was at! One, incidence: Tete Montilo, a 
>Spanish Jazz Muscician of extremely high caliber. He is blind and 
>only has good hearing in one ear. During a Jazz Festival, I enjoyed 
>his playing and told him so. His comment was that the Steinway D was 
>nice but it would have been nicer if it were at 442. At that time, I 
>didn't consider that he could really know. After the Festival, he 
>was scheduled to do a private party in a local Night Club, on a 
>different piano. I was asked to tune for it. On a whim, I set the 
>piano at 442, just to see if he could tell. I didn't tell anyone.<G> 
>Immediately after the first "set", he had his sister steer him to 
>me. He was quite jubilant and said: "Thank you, so much, for tuning 
>the piano at 442. It makes my music better!" Yes, there are those 
>who can tell the difference. Do I advocate 442? Not no, Hell No! 
>IMO, it's just stupid. But, that's just my o! pinion. Does it make 
>the piano project better? I don't think so, but there's no way to really tell.
>On the few, rare occasions, that I do concert work, where 442 is 
>requested, I will only do it, IF the artist will pay for the 
>retuning of the instrument back to 440. So far, none have agreed to 
>that, so they get 440! IMO, the venue should not have to bear the 
>cost of this nonsense.
>Regards,
>Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)
>Captain, Tool Police
>Squares R I
>
>

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