440 vs 442

[Porritt, David]

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Ron:

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There are several people here who can tell 440 from 442.  It's not that
uncommon.  We have a soprano here who always wants her piano at 442 (a
singer who can tell pitch that well?!?!?!?!?).

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dp

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David M. Porritt

dporritt@smu.edu

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From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On
Behalf Of RON MAY, RPT
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 8:45 PM
To: joegarrett@earthlink.net; Pianotech List
Subject: Re: 440 vs 442

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Hi Joe

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I'm sorry but I still would have to see it to believe it. He would have
to play a couple more pianos for me. I have had occasions where the
artist or stage manager pulled out a meter and checked the pitch.  Are
you sure he didn't have one. 2 cps out of 440cps, 4 cps out of 880cps 8
cps out of 1760. I'm sorry Joe,you will have a hard time convincing me.

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Thanks anyway for the contribution on A440. I am collecting ideas and
back up for the Symphonic Assoc.

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Ron May

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	Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:14 PM

	Subject: Re: 440 vs 442

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	Mr May said: "I have suggested that there isn't an ear in the
world that can hear the difference between 440 and 442 "

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	NOT! I've personally had experiences where the Artist knew
damned well what pitch the piano was at! One, incidence: Tete Montilo, a
Spanish Jazz Muscician of extremely high caliber. He is blind and only
has good hearing in one ear. During a Jazz Festival, I enjoyed his
playing and told him so. His comment was that the Steinway D was nice
but it would have been nicer if it were at 442. At that time, I didn't
consider that he could really know. After the Festival, he was scheduled
to do a private party in a local Night Club, on a different piano. I was
asked to tune for it. On a whim, I set the piano at 442, just to see if
he could tell. I didn't tell anyone.<G> Immediately after the first
"set", he had his sister steer him to me. He was quite jubilant and
said: "Thank you, so much, for tuning the piano at 442. It makes my
music better!" Yes, there are those who can tell the difference. Do I
advocate 442? Not no, Hell No! IMO, it's just stupid. But, that's just
my o! pinion. Does it make the piano project better? I don't think so,
but there's no way to really tell.

	On the few, rare occasions, that I do concert work, where 442 is
requested, I will only do it, IF the artist will pay for the retuning of
the instrument back to 440. So far, none have agreed to that, so they
get 440! IMO, the venue should not have to bear the cost of this
nonsense.

	Regards,

	Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)

	Captain, Tool Police

	Squares R I

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