440 vs 442

[Avery]

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At 01:14 PM 2/8/2006, you wrote:
>Hi Avery
>
>You are right Avery 2 CPS (CYCLES PER SECOND) is 8 cents I think the 
>problem is I'm talking cycles you are talking cents does that makes 
>sense. "You are suppose to laugh"

OK. As long as I'm correct. If not, I've tuned several pianos   WAY 
wrong the last several years! :-D

Avery

>.
>Ron
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:avery1@houston.rr.com>Avery
>To: <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>Pianotech List
>Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 6:43 AM
>Subject: Re: 440 vs 442
>
>Ron,
>
>At 08:45 PM 2/7/2006, you wrote:
>>Hi Joe
>>
>>I'm sorry but I still would have to see it to believe it. He would 
>>have to play a couple more pianos for me. I have had occasions 
>>where the artist or stage manager pulled out a meter and checked 
>>the pitch.  Are you sure he didn't have one. 2 cps out of 440cps, 4 
>>cps out of 880cps 8 cps out of 1760.
>
>Am I missing something here. Isn't 442 + 8 cents difference @ A4?
>
>Avery Todd
>
>>I'm sorry Joe,you will have a hard time convincing me.
>>
>>Thanks anyway for the contribution on A440. I am collecting ideas 
>>and back up for the Symphonic Assoc.
>>
>>Ron May
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net>Joseph Garrett
>>To: <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:14 PM
>>Subject: Re: 440 vs 442
>>Mr May said: "I have suggested that there isn't an ear in the world 
>>that can hear the difference between 440 and 442 "
>>
>>NOT! I've personally had experiences where the Artist knew damned 
>>well what pitch the piano was at! One, incidence: Tete Montilo, a 
>>Spanish Jazz Muscician of extremely high caliber. He is blind and 
>>only has good hearing in one ear. During a Jazz Festival, I enjoyed 
>>his playing and told him so. His comment was that the Steinway D 
>>was nice but it would have been nicer if it were at 442. At that 
>>time, I didn't consider that he could really know. After the 
>>Festival, he was scheduled to do a private party in a local Night 
>>Club, on a different piano. I was asked to tune for it. On a whim, 
>>I set the piano at 442, just to see if he could tell. I didn't tell 
>>anyone.<G> Immediately after the first "set", he had his sister 
>>steer him to me. He was quite jubilant and said: "Thank you, so 
>>much, for tuning the piano at 442. It makes my music better!" Yes, 
>>there are those who can tell the difference. Do I advocate 442? Not 
>>no, Hell No! IMO, it's just stupid. But, that's just my o! pinion. 
>>Does it make the piano project better? I don't think so, but 
>>there's no way to really tell.
>>On the few, rare occasions, that I do concert work, where 442 is 
>>requested, I will only do it, IF the artist will pay for the 
>>retuning of the instrument back to 440. So far, none have agreed to 
>>that, so they get 440! IMO, the venue should not have to bear the 
>>cost of this nonsense.
>>Regards,
>>Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)
>>Captain, Tool Police
>>Squares R I
>>
>>

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