440 vs 442

[RON MAY, RPT]

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Hi Avery

You are right Avery 2 CPS (CYCLES PER SECOND) is 8 cents I think the =
problem is I'm talking cycles you are talking cents does that makes =
sense. "You are suppose to laugh"
.
Ron
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  From: Avery=20
  To: Pianotech List=20
  Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 6:43 AM
  Subject: Re: 440 vs 442


  Ron,=20

  At 08:45 PM 2/7/2006, you wrote:

    Hi Joe
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    I'm sorry but I still would have to see it to believe it. He would =
have to play a couple more pianos for me. I have had occasions where the =
artist or stage manager pulled out a meter and checked the pitch.  Are =
you sure he didn't have one. 2 cps out of 440cps, 4 cps out of 880cps 8 =
cps out of 1760.=20

  Am I missing something here. Isn't 442 + 8 cents difference @ A4?=20

  Avery Todd


    I'm sorry Joe,you will have a hard time convincing me.
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    Thanks anyway for the contribution on A440. I am collecting ideas =
and back up for the Symphonic Assoc.
    =20
    Ron May
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      From: Joseph Garrett=20

      To: pianotech=20

      Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:14 PM

      Subject: Re: 440 vs 442


      Mr May said: "I have suggested that there isn't an ear in the =
world that can hear the difference between 440 and 442 "



      NOT! I've personally had experiences where the Artist knew damned =
well what pitch the piano was at! One, incidence: Tete Montilo, a =
Spanish Jazz Muscician of extremely high caliber. He is blind and only =
has good hearing in one ear. During a Jazz Festival, I enjoyed his =
playing and told him so. His comment was that the Steinway D was nice =
but it would have been nicer if it were at 442. At that time, I didn't =
consider that he could really know. After the Festival, he was scheduled =
to do a private party in a local Night Club, on a different piano. I was =
asked to tune for it. On a whim, I set the piano at 442, just to see if =
he could tell. I didn't tell anyone.<G> Immediately after the first =
"set", he had his sister steer him to me. He was quite jubilant and =
said: "Thank you, so much, for tuning the piano at 442. It makes my =
music better!" Yes, there are those who can tell the difference. Do I =
advocate 442? Not no, Hell No! IMO, it's just stupid. But, that's just =
my o! pinion. Does it make the piano project better? I don't think so, =
but there's no way to really tell.

      On the few, rare occasions, that I do concert work, where 442 is =
requested, I will only do it, IF the artist will pay for the retuning of =
the instrument back to 440. So far, none have agreed to that, so they =
get 440! IMO, the venue should not have to bear the cost of this =
nonsense.

      Regards,

      Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)

      Captain, Tool Police

      Squares R I





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