tuning environment

Andrew and Rebeca Anderson anrebe@sbcglobal.net
Sat, 04 Feb 2006 22:40:27 -0600


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Robert,
Go to the PTG website shop and get the book "On Pitch".  I had this 
same problem, problem was I was trying to listen to something way up 
in the stratosphere.  This will help you to identify where to listen 
for the beats (coincident partial of the interval) etc.  I also found 
that using ear-plugs, Diane Hofstetter's canal caps are great, really 
helped to reduce that stratospheric stuff so I could focus on the 
useful sounds.

Andrew Anderson

At 08:54 AM 2/4/2006, you wrote:
>I am learning to tune aurally, although I use an ETD (Sanderson 
>Accutuner III)  to check the accuracy of my tuning and to speed 
>things up a bit. I find it difficult to hear the beats 
>(particlularly the slow beating 4ths and 5ths) even in the quiet 
>environment of my own home on my well scaled Yamaha grand piano, 
>because they seem to be so weak. Will your ears eventually become 
>more accustomed to hearing beats? I have been doing this for months 
>and the beats still sound very feeble, although when I move my head 
>around the piano they become slightly more perceptible. I can't 
>imagine what it must be like to have to tune a piano in the noisy 
>environments that you describe.
>
>Robert Finley
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:thetuner@ivories52.com>Geoff Sykes
>To: <mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net>tune4u@earthlink.net ; 
><mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>'Pianotech List'
>Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 12:51 AM
>Subject: RE: tuning environment
>
>I had the opportunity to tune four pianos at NAMM last year. Ever 
>try to tune in a very large convention center full of pianos all 
>being tuned at the same time? Complete chaos and cacophony would 
>have been quieter. Especially when you find yourself working on the 
>same note at the same time as one or two other techs in the same 
>room. And you know what? It was a fascinating high energy learning 
>experience and I'd gladly do it again.
>
>-- Geoff Sykes
>-- Assoc. Los Angeles
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] 
>On Behalf Of Alan Barnard
>Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:47 PM
>To: Pianotech List
>Subject: RE: tuning environment
>
>Stick around awhile and you'll experience some tuning environments 
>that'll make noisy nursing homes seem like a nap on the beach.
>
>Lawn mowers, vacuums, screeching 2-year-olds, clocks!!!, loud air 
>conditioners and furnaces, televisions, and (at Fort Leonard Wood) 
>the not-so-distant sound of small arms, tank shells, and the 
>engineers blowing up stuff ... kabooM! ... the fun just keeps on coming.
>
>One that was a challenge: Junior high school tuning Hamilton on 
>stage in gym/auditorium with concrete floor and cinder block walls, 
>boys basketball team shows up and they each grab a ball and start 
>bouncing, shooting, shouting, laughing and the SHOES ... sqeak 
>squirk eek scree. I couldn't complain because I'd gotten held up and 
>was an hour late when I started.
>
>And the number one most obnoxious sound? Someone else tuning another 
>piano in the background.
>
>Alan Barnard
>Salem, Missouri
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From:<mailto:pianotune05@comcast.net>
>To: <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>Pianotech List
>Sent: 02/03/2006 6:37:02 PM
>Subject: tuning environment
>
>
>Hi Everyone,
>I know it's not a technical question per sae, but I like hearing 
>about other technician's experiences.  What has been yoru worst 
>tuning environment?  Today I tuned a piano at a nursing home, an 
>Acrosonic.  The people were great, but it always throws me off when 
>someone comesup and asks me a question such as, "Have you found that 
>lost chord yet." I was making sure my thirds matched up evenly.  It 
>was great, and I scheduled them for their next tuning already plus 
>one of the employees there scheduled me to tune her piano in two 
>weeks.  It was a great experience, but it's hard to tune with lots 
>of background activity.  What do you guys do in that situation, 
>besides make the best of it.?:)
>Marshall
>ps. It was a great tuning all around however, plus they offered me 
>lunch!  Awesome chili and corn bread.
>-------------- Original message --------------
>From: Susan Kline <skline@peak.org>
>
> > At 03:57 PM 2/3/2006 -0800, Horace wrote:
> > >Actually that has been done a number of times. When I was more active in
> > >institutional work, I used to do it for demonstration purposes...it does
> > >get folks' attention.
> >
> > I'm sure it does!
> >
> > >Also, I know specifically of one major contemporary venue in which this
> > >was done to the primary concert instrument...no, the technician 
> who did it
> > >is no longer employed there.
> >
> > Ready for a different sort of institution, I would guess ... 
> well, there is
> > more than one way to tell an employer to "take this job and shove it."
> >
> > sssssssssnn
> >
> >
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