Tuning pins undersized, where can I find sockets for my lever ?

[Philippe Errembault]

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hi Joe, I will check that, but could you explain what is the difference =
between a normal tip and a sole tip ?
Hi would be glad to have someone measuring the dimensions of a normal =
tuning pin for me.=20
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  From: Joe And Penny Goss=20
  To: Pianotech List=20
  Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 5:24 PM
  Subject: Re: Tuning pins undersized, where can I find sockets for my =
lever ?


  Hi Phillippe,
  I would suggest a Sole  #2 tip. They are a little on the small side of =
#2.

  But before you buy anything, try the tips on another newer piano that =
you know to be standard size. There was a time when the tips that were =
made, were too large for the sizes that they actually were marked.

  Sole tips are shorter than most available now, and are available in =
size #2 and #3 from Jahn in Germany and Mother Goose Tools in the U.S.
  Joe Goss RPT
  Mother Goose Tools
  imatunr@srvinet.com
  www.mothergoosetools.com
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    From: Philippe Errembault=20
    To: Pianotech List=20
    Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 1:51 AM
    Subject: Tuning pins undersized, where can I find sockets for my =
lever ?


    Hello,=20

    I live in Brussels and I got a very old piano with a wooden frame, =
and I'd like to use it to learn tuning by myself, and why not becoming =
someday a professional tuner. (I'm quite tired of my previous job...) =
So... It seems that there is only one shop in brussels that could help =
me, but they are soooo helping, that each time I visit them I decide =
that it will be the last time. They never did anything else that trying =
to implicitly discourage me, and I have the feeling that they just want =
to protect their position of monopoly on Brussels. So I'm trying to find =
every information I can on the net and in books.

    Since they were soooo cooperative, I've bought on the net, a tuning =
kit including a "Hale Pro Extension Tuning Hammer" (it seems to be more =
a tuning lever than a tuning hammer but... ok. Here are pictures of the =
stuff : http://home.flash.net/~schteev/prokit8.jpg =
http://home.flash.net/~schteev/ext1.jpg

    This material was presented as being THE professional reference for =
tuners, and it seemed true, since it matches quite closely with the =
drawing in the book from Arthur A. Reblitz; including the name "Hale" on =
it...

    I bought it with two aditionnal sockets, and none of them match with =
my piano. The pins on my piano are only 1/4" on the cylindric part, and =
4.5mm at the top. even the smallest tip (#1) is floating nearly freely =
around it. The seller has no idea on how to help me solve my problem. Do =
you have any idea where / how I could find a socket small enough for my =
piano ?

    thank you,=20

    Philippe Errembault
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