Hale Sight-O-Tuner

[Avery]

David,

No particular reason. After I "dumped" mine, I just went back to 
tuning aurally. Then when I got to the university, I got them to buy 
me one. I like it. Not that the other one wouldn't work, I just 
didn't pursue it!
As far as the "stretch too much" is concerned, that's why I check it 
aurally! :-) If I don't like it, I change it.

But for pitch raises, HT tunings, I LOVE it. Did the SOT have that?

Avery

At 08:53 PM 4/17/2006, you wrote:
>I'm curious of your reasons for switching back to the SATIII?   I 
>still use it and love.   What is it you prefer in the old stretch 
>#F4 tunings over the FAC?    Personally, I fine FAC sometimes 
>stretches too much in the high mid-range for my ear...i.e. single 
>octave moves too much...I rarely have problems with double octaves 
>being one way or the other...
>
>David Ilvedson, RPT
>Pacifica, California
>
>
>
>----- Original message ----------------------------------------
>From: Avery <avery1 at houston.rr.com>
>To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
>Received: 4/17/2006 4:24:25 PM
>Subject: Re: Hale Sight-O-Tuner
>
>
> >I've never tried it but I'm sure others have.
>
> >Avery
>
> >At 06:20 PM 4/17/2006, you wrote:
> >>Hi Avery,
> >>Late last year I switched back from PRCT to a new  SAT III after 7
> >>years. Believe it or not I prefer the old F stretch tuning mode that
> >>is still in the SAT III memory.  I do not know if I am alone in doing this?
> >>Jim
> >>James Grebe   Piano Tuning & Repair   Member of M.P.T.
> >>R.P.T. of the P.T.G. for over 30 years.   "Member of the Year" in 1989
> >>   Creator of Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups, Piano Benches, Writing
> >> Instruments
> >>(314) 845-8282   1526 Raspberry Lane   Arnold, MO 63010
> >>Researcher of St. Louis Theatre History
> >>BECOME WHAT YOU BELIEVE!
> >>pianoman at accessus.net
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Avery" <avery1 at houston.rr.com>
> >>To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
> >>Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 6:14 PM
> >>Subject: Re: Hale Sight-O-Tuner
> >>
> >>
> >>>Jim,
> >>>
> >>>Not intentional, believe me. I sat it, in its case, on top of my
> >>>car while I put other things into the trunk. It had rained and I
> >>>was in the "boonies", so I was trying to avoid water puddles, mud,
> >>>etc. while getting into the car and just simply overlooked it
> >>>because I was looking down at the ground. After getting onto the
> >>>road and accelerating, I heard a bump and looked into the rear view
> >>>mirror and saw it bouncing down the road. It actually worked for
> >>>quite a while after that (sometimes having to give it a little
> >>>bump) but it finally gave up the ghost. It might be repairable but
> >>>I don't know for sure.
> >>>
> >>>I then continued tuning aurally, as I had for years, until I got
> >>>here and ending up buying an SAT III.
> >>>
> >>>Avery
> >>>
> >>>At 05:36 PM 4/17/2006, you wrote:
> >>>>Liz Baker, here,  once had her SAT fall out of the back of her
> >>>>pickup truck while going down the hiway.  Can not figure out why
> >>>>anyone would carry something that valuable loose in the bed of a truck
> >>>>Jim
> >>>>James Grebe   Piano Tuning & Repair   Member of M.P.T.
> >>>>R.P.T. of the P.T.G. for over 30 years.   "Member of the Year" in 1989
> >>>>   Creator of Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups, Piano Benches,
> >>>> Writing Instruments
> >>>>(314) 845-8282   1526 Raspberry Lane   Arnold, MO 63010
> >>>>Researcher of St. Louis Theatre History
> >>>>BECOME WHAT YOU BELIEVE!
> >>>>pianoman at accessus.net
> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Avery" <avery1 at houston.rr.com>
> >>>>To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
> >>>>Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 5:27 PM
> >>>>Subject: Re: Hale Sight-O-Tuner
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>James,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>It hasn't worked in many years. It fell off the top of my car
> >>>>>while going down the road. Don't ask! :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>At 05:07 PM 4/17/2006, you wrote:
> >>>>>>I beg to disagree.  I used to have two of them before the
> >>>>>>SAT's.  I found them extremely valuable in doing tunings as well
> >>>>>>as just measuring comparisons.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I did too, at the time. It was the first ETD I found that I could
> >>>>>usually "live with". But now.......??????????
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Avery
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>They are also very good for pipe organ tuning.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Never done that. Don't want to. Besides, I'm too big to try and
> >>>>>crawl around in those chambers! :-D
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>How little will you take for one?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I'd be reluctant to take "anything" for it. I have an SAT III, so
> >>>>>I'm not going to "get it fixed".
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Avery Todd
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>James Grebe   Piano Tuning & Repair   Member of M.P.T.
> >>>>>>R.P.T. of the P.T.G. for over 30 years.   "Member of the Year" in 1989
> >>>>>>   Creator of Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups, Piano Benches,
> >>>>>> Writing Instruments
> >>>>>>(314) 845-8282   1526 Raspberry Lane   Arnold, MO 63010
> >>>>>>Researcher of St. Louis Theatre History
> >>>>>>BECOME WHAT YOU BELIEVE!
> >>>>>>pianoman at accessus.net
> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Avery" <avery1 at houston.rr.com>
> >>>>>>To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
> >>>>>>Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 3:49 PM
> >>>>>>Subject: Re: Hale Sight-O-Tuner
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Bill,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I have one of those also. But with what's available nowadays
> >>>>>>>(except for cost), I can't
> >>>>>>>imagine why anyone would want to buy it! JMO. :-)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Avery Todd
> >>>>>>>University of Houston.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>At 07:09 AM 4/17/2006, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>Techs,  I have a friend who wants to sell his Hale S-O-T.  If
> >>>>>>>>you are interested he can be reached:
> >>>>>>>>Eb Campbell
> >>>>>>>>1707 St Clair Dr
> >>>>>>>>Pekin, IL 61554
> >>>>>>>>309-346-7769
> >>>>>>>>ebencampbell at insightbb.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Bill Schlipf
> >>>>>>>>Bloomington, IL
> >>>