Hale Sight-O-Tuner

[David Ilvedson]

I'm curious of your reasons for switching back to the SATIII?   I still use it and love.   What is it you prefer in the old stretch #F4 tunings over the FAC?    Personally, I fine FAC sometimes stretches too much in the high mid-range for my ear...i.e. single octave moves too much...I rarely have problems with double octaves being one way or the other...

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, California



----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: Avery <avery1 at houston.rr.com>
To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
Received: 4/17/2006 4:24:25 PM
Subject: Re: Hale Sight-O-Tuner


>I've never tried it but I'm sure others have.

>Avery

>At 06:20 PM 4/17/2006, you wrote:
>>Hi Avery,
>>Late last year I switched back from PRCT to a new  SAT III after 7 
>>years. Believe it or not I prefer the old F stretch tuning mode that 
>>is still in the SAT III memory.  I do not know if I am alone in doing this?
>>Jim
>>James Grebe   Piano Tuning & Repair   Member of M.P.T.
>>R.P.T. of the P.T.G. for over 30 years.   "Member of the Year" in 1989
>>   Creator of Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups, Piano Benches, Writing 
>> Instruments
>>(314) 845-8282   1526 Raspberry Lane   Arnold, MO 63010
>>Researcher of St. Louis Theatre History
>>BECOME WHAT YOU BELIEVE!
>>pianoman at accessus.net
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Avery" <avery1 at houston.rr.com>
>>To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 6:14 PM
>>Subject: Re: Hale Sight-O-Tuner
>>
>>
>>>Jim,
>>>
>>>Not intentional, believe me. I sat it, in its case, on top of my 
>>>car while I put other things into the trunk. It had rained and I 
>>>was in the "boonies", so I was trying to avoid water puddles, mud, 
>>>etc. while getting into the car and just simply overlooked it 
>>>because I was looking down at the ground. After getting onto the 
>>>road and accelerating, I heard a bump and looked into the rear view 
>>>mirror and saw it bouncing down the road. It actually worked for 
>>>quite a while after that (sometimes having to give it a little 
>>>bump) but it finally gave up the ghost. It might be repairable but 
>>>I don't know for sure.
>>>
>>>I then continued tuning aurally, as I had for years, until I got 
>>>here and ending up buying an SAT III.
>>>
>>>Avery
>>>
>>>At 05:36 PM 4/17/2006, you wrote:
>>>>Liz Baker, here,  once had her SAT fall out of the back of her 
>>>>pickup truck while going down the hiway.  Can not figure out why 
>>>>anyone would carry something that valuable loose in the bed of a truck
>>>>Jim
>>>>James Grebe   Piano Tuning & Repair   Member of M.P.T.
>>>>R.P.T. of the P.T.G. for over 30 years.   "Member of the Year" in 1989
>>>>   Creator of Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups, Piano Benches, 
>>>> Writing Instruments
>>>>(314) 845-8282   1526 Raspberry Lane   Arnold, MO 63010
>>>>Researcher of St. Louis Theatre History
>>>>BECOME WHAT YOU BELIEVE!
>>>>pianoman at accessus.net
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Avery" <avery1 at houston.rr.com>
>>>>To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>>>Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 5:27 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Hale Sight-O-Tuner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>James,
>>>>>
>>>>>It hasn't worked in many years. It fell off the top of my car 
>>>>>while going down the road. Don't ask! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>At 05:07 PM 4/17/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>>I beg to disagree.  I used to have two of them before the 
>>>>>>SAT's.  I found them extremely valuable in doing tunings as well 
>>>>>>as just measuring comparisons.
>>>>>
>>>>>I did too, at the time. It was the first ETD I found that I could 
>>>>>usually "live with". But now.......??????????
>>>>>
>>>>>Avery
>>>>>
>>>>>>They are also very good for pipe organ tuning.
>>>>>
>>>>>Never done that. Don't want to. Besides, I'm too big to try and 
>>>>>crawl around in those chambers! :-D
>>>>>
>>>>>>How little will you take for one?
>>>>>
>>>>>I'd be reluctant to take "anything" for it. I have an SAT III, so 
>>>>>I'm not going to "get it fixed".
>>>>>
>>>>>Avery Todd
>>>>>
>>>>>>James Grebe   Piano Tuning & Repair   Member of M.P.T.
>>>>>>R.P.T. of the P.T.G. for over 30 years.   "Member of the Year" in 1989
>>>>>>   Creator of Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups, Piano Benches, 
>>>>>> Writing Instruments
>>>>>>(314) 845-8282   1526 Raspberry Lane   Arnold, MO 63010
>>>>>>Researcher of St. Louis Theatre History
>>>>>>BECOME WHAT YOU BELIEVE!
>>>>>>pianoman at accessus.net
>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Avery" <avery1 at houston.rr.com>
>>>>>>To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>>>>>Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 3:49 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: Hale Sight-O-Tuner
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bill,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have one of those also. But with what's available nowadays 
>>>>>>>(except for cost), I can't
>>>>>>>imagine why anyone would want to buy it! JMO. :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Avery Todd
>>>>>>>University of Houston.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At 07:09 AM 4/17/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>Techs,  I have a friend who wants to sell his Hale S-O-T.  If 
>>>>>>>>you are interested he can be reached:
>>>>>>>>Eb Campbell
>>>>>>>>1707 St Clair Dr
>>>>>>>>Pekin, IL 61554
>>>>>>>>309-346-7769
>>>>>>>>ebencampbell at insightbb.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Bill Schlipf
>>>>>>>>Bloomington, IL
>>>