Hi Dale btw.. I should say so much hello ! He did tell me of your freindship, and indeed your name came up as part of his lecture along with a couple other west coast guys. I remember many of our discussions about this subject and you and its part of the reason I have come to respect your views so much. We initially had a bit of difficulty finding out whether either of us was trying to assert whether one approach was inherently better then the other, and along with the mix of many other posts I think I initially misunderstood you to take the position that both methods ended up sounding basically alike. My position has always been that the two approaches are bound to end up having different sound characteristics, and that personally I prefer the sound of the non-lacquer approach. That said, I found his discussion interesting as well as a more personal engagement over dinner in Old Town Stockholm with him and a couple other techs. Very interesting fellow Eric, and full of enthusiasm and encouragment. We talked a bit about the New York B I have over here that I am planning on doing with the help of those Ronsens we've talked about. Been really busy so I think its going to have to wait until the after the new year. But he encouraged me to go ahead with the project and rely heavily on your advices. So... grin. I'm game to be sure! Cheers RicB Dale wrote: Ric Eric is a personal friend & fine Human being . I have made similar assertions on many occasion to this effect on list. Eric & I have hashed over voicing techniques for many years on many occasions & on all these salient points we agree. It's nice to have ones own opinions re-enforced by your associates. That being said I've heard finely voiced Hamburgs as well & enjoyed then too. The only problem is usually the needling has not gone far enough & the under lying core remains too stiff & the edgy sound rears its' ugly head. When this is tamed the sound can be truly lush. Dale
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