Chipping

[J. R. White]

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Vacuum cleaners and machine tools, yes.  Let=92 not forget running =
water, too.

J R W

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From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On =
Behalf
Of alan forsyth
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 7:20 PM
To: Pianotech
Subject: Re: Chipping

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I had six bloody months of it at college; the main purpose was I think =
for
"industrial training".=20

Chipping also of necessity meant that you had to be able to tune and
recognize semitones.

Also, the chipping process seems to train your ears to filter out =
extraneous
noises, by virtue=20

of the action and dampers being removed, which has been of great benefit =
in
the real world;

I can tune in noisy situations, except where there is a vacuum cleaner =
of
course!

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"PTA do not require a chipping test...."

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I wonder though if they require that a muting strip is not used in =
tuning
the temperament?

One thing that puts me off the PTA is why should I take a test when I =
have
qualified after 3 years=20

full-time at a college? And there is also the requirement that no ETD's =
are
allowed even though=20

it was a compulsory part of the course at college; in this day and age,
that's like writing a letter=20

with pen and paper instead of using e-mail.

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AF

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From: Byeway222@aol.com=20

To: pianotech@ptg.org=20

Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 1:46 AM

Subject: Chipping

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'Chipping-up' has always been the bedrock of tuning training on the
full-time courses here in UK.  The first series of  tests was the =
completion
of a pitch raise in decreasing time scales. I really can't remember what =
the
ultimate goal was, but it was probably something like 20minutes to raise =
the
pitch a resonable amount using just a plectrum on a strung back.
The guys who really perfected the technique were those who worked in =
piano
factories and went through a phenomenal number of newly strung backs in =
a
day.   It was a very depressing sight to see a guy, often blind, sitting =
in
often a smallish room with scores of strung backs stacked like library =
books
beavering away non-stop.    I would have thought that this has been the
practice in USA in the past, before automated stringing in factories.
However, there has always been a certain amount of controversy as to its
real value to  'on the road'  tuners.   My own experience, and that of =
many
tuners, is not having pefected a consistant and useful commercial speed
using this technique.  You have to be doing a lot of it for it to be =
time
saving.  I think most of us perfect our own way of action-in pitch =
raising.

One of the initial values of 'chipping-up' in the college training =
system,
however, is to quickly familiarise the new student with the geography of =
the
strung back and to encourage a fast and confident initial approach to =
the
whole business of tuning.  It is acknowleged that this is an initial =
'rough
tuning'  and there is no point in hanging about and getting neurotic =
about
it being perfect.  Just get on with it.  Accuracy will develop with
technique and experience. It really is an effective way of negating the
over-cautious aspects in the personality of many beginner students.  I =
wish
I had appreciated this more when I did my own training.

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The previous post is right in saying that the PTA do not require a =
chipping
test, and their standard test appears to be OK.  My own experience of =
the
PTA has been a mixed one, and although i have never been a member, I did
attend some pretty good 3 day conventions in the 1980's.  I would doubt
though, that even now, their conventions have such a broad based =
character
as the US ones.

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Ric


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