---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment First off Mike let me welcome you to piano tooners anonymous where we've all made every mistakes known to the world of toonerism & congratulate you for your courage to reach out for help. We Love you Mike & We all need help. Moving along. My Dad was a Yamaha dealer for 20 years & this problem became apparent over time Sometimes occuringing in the warrantie period. The Problems is 3 fold Hard hammers not routinely voice & cared for , forceful yet routine playing in this condition & also the angle around the termination pin at the top & the string segment running up to the tuning pin. It's tooo blamed sharp & lends itself to string fatigue under the condition you describe. Even with out much playing strings will & do break, either while tuning ,playing or in the middle of the night. Tell management to get over it & bite the proverbial bullet. It's cheaper in the long run than to continuely struggle with a condition that is terminal . Have them call Yamaha to verify it if you can't get thru to them. If they dont' see the light I would fire them till they see daylight. I mean how much nickel & dime repair will they tolerate. I once restrung a Kawai grand in a Church that had broken literally 75% of the plain strings & repaired badly by Bozo the amateur. Hammers of stone & un cared for. The sound of the piano that they were still trying to use could not produce an intelligleble melodic sound ,with all the different rates of string stretch going on. Oh .. My.... Gosh. & that the intelligency of said church didn't think to call somone for many years tolerating the condition. The course of remedy currently being pursued will portray you in a bad light ,as the piano will now always be out of tune (every day) & sooner or later you will become the resaon that it is. Hope this helps. Keep the Faith were here to help my brother Dale Erwin Long time listener, first time caller. First order of business: Thanks for the forum... just reading for the past several months, I've gained valuable knowledge. Keep it up, all! Moving on... I've got a customer (a theater) whose has their Yamaha P22 tuned weekly for a long running show. Over the last 9 months or so, bass strings have been breaking with increasing frequency; it's to the point now that I've replaced 5 bass strings in as many weeks. As many as 15 or 20 have broken so far. It seems to me that the cause is hard hammers. The piano has always been bright, but is a little more so than it used to be (this is a little hard to gauge, since I see the change slowly over the course of a few years). There are definitely deep grooves... I convinced the management to let me reshape the hammers once - the string breakage slowed for a while, and then increased again. The piano is played pretty hard, seven or eight shows a week. Am I on the right track, or are there other causes for this type of problem? Besides needing regulation, the piano is in good shape (no environmental or humidity issues, etc.). I'm guessing that I need to convince the managemnet to A) let me do more work on the hammers, B) let me replace the hammers w/ new ones, or C) continue to pay for string replacements and muck up my schedule on a weekly basis (and it's two strings every time they break one - I put on a universal, then follow up with a duplicate when it comes in... thought about tying knots, but the strings are breaking right at the end of the winding, mostly - knot much room). Thanks in advance for thoughts, pointers, sympathy(?).... Mike Byrley Chicago, IL ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/2a/23/eb/fe/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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