Aha! was flat facts

David Ilvedson ilvey@sbcglobal.net
Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:46:34 -0800


I think a lot of the reasons for the alleged pitch drop has to do with initial tunings when the piano is new.   Often the piano isn't brought up to pitch with the store tunings.   Then if it has any subsequent if often tuned again where it is.   Then it may go through years without tuning and finally when Sir Gawain the tuner comes to the rescue he finds the piano way below pitch and then begins to wonder why do pianos drop in pitch so much?    ;-]

In California finding a piano at pitch after many years is not that uncommon.    Finding a piano above pitch is also not uncommon although it probably was tuned above pitch...

David Ilvedson

----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: Alan <tune4u@earthlink.net>
To: 'Pianotech' <pianotech@ptg.org>
Received: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:01:10 -0600
Subject: Aha! was flat facts


>And herein lies the interesting crux of my whole question from the
>beginning: We have guesses, suppositions, and opinions but, apparently,
>really don't know why pianos get flatter and flatter and flatter over time.
>Seems like this question is so basic that experiments would have been done
>long ago and we'd have a definitive answer. And maybe, who knows, some ideas
>for building more stable pianos.

>I still go with turning pins, though. There is a natural, sustained tension
>on the pin from the string that would love to turn the thing
>counter-clockwise. Earth tremors, children thudding across the floor, sonic
>booms, moving the piano, and hovering ufo's would all put vibration into the
>system, however briefly, and the pin could jiggle just a a third of a skinny
>hair each time. But over the years ...

>Alan R. Barnard
>Salem, MO


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>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf
>Of Ron Nossaman
>Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 11:38 AM
>To: Pianotech
>Subject: Re: was flat facts



>> I don't really buy into the "tuning pin turns" theory.

>Me either, nor the wire stretching. Music wire doesn't continue to 
>stretch over time unless it's tensioned at it's yield point - then 
>it stretches, necks down, and breaks.
>Ron N

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