This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Thanks. =20 Went to the California State Conference and am signed up for National = (the Hotel is what kills ya). Thought about going to MARC and even talked to = some CTE's out there about testing. But my credit card is starting to whimper = so enough for this year! =20 Congrats on RPT. Both in a day sounds brutal. =20 Alan R. Barnard Salem, MO -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of Jerry Cohen Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:23 PM To: 'Pianotech' Subject: RE: Where's the action (cloth)? Alan, =20 I took my RPT exams last fall (both in the same day). Titebond works well. Just pull the bushing cloth through the flange. = Then put a small dab of glue with a tooth pick on the cloth, just outside of = each prong of the flange. Then pull the cloth so the glue is in the flange. Insert a pin for sizing, and let it dry while you do other tasks. After = the glue dries, remove the pin, cut the cloth with a sharp razor blade, and = ream the bushing for exact size. It=92s easy, so don=92t waste points on = something which is easy to do. As for cloth, Pianoteck bushing cloth works = perfectly well. =20 BTW, are you planning to attend the MARC convention in Penn. next month? They give a fantastic all day technical exam prep class. I took it last year.=20 =20 Jerry Cohen, RPT NJ Chapter =20 -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of Alan Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:20 PM To: 'Pianotech' Subject: RE: Where's the action (cloth)? =20 Wow ... it IS hard to say things right and I missed the mark, too! I had taken no offense at your post, mi amigo. In fact, I appreciated your = reply, as always. =20 Now the dilemma is that I'm soon to take the RPT Technical Exam (I know, finally, at long last, what kept ya?) which requires rebushing a grand hammer flange. No waiting overnight allowed, I'm told =20 In fact, a concern I have is that I will go to all the trouble to glue = the felt in then push out some of it out when I pin/ream/burnish the darn thing--and then be out of time. So it may not be the best "shrink sized" = or "soft felt" center in the world, but I want something that will be = adequate, set up fairly fast, and HOLD. But no, I don't want to take a glue pot to = the convention just to make two little globs o' glue. =20 I'm thinkin' Titebond or maybe PVC-E. =20 What have others used in this kind of time-crunch repair? That's what = I'd like to know. =20 Alan R. Barnard Salem, MO -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of Terry Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 1:00 PM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: Where's the action (cloth)? You are welcome. I apologize - sometimes I know my responses as a teeny little bit smart a$$y. You are correct - their felt products are not on = the web site. I simply called them. You can order as many or as few as you = wish. Only one size. If I recall correctly, they are $2 per strip (but I could = be WAY off with that). =20 I honestly don't know how to rush drying the bushings. I've always just = done it in my shop and had the luxury of time. I'd be tempted to experiment = with other glues like Titebond in the shop first to make sure it didn't go = too far into the felt (maybe use sparingly and let air dry until tacky???). =20 Have you used the Renner bushing felt before? Be sure to use their = training tool (to get the felt to go through the flange easy. I pull my felt = through the flange, one cut, thread a bunch of flanges on a long center pin wire = (or individual wires), and then apply a 50/50 mix of water/alcohol and let = dry overnight. Works great. Depending on how much friction you are after controls what size wire you use to for sizing.=20 =20 Terry Farrell ----- Original Message -----=20 From: HYPERLINK "mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net"Alan=20 To: HYPERLINK "mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"'Pianotech'=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 12:58 PM Subject: RE: Where's the action (cloth)? =20 Well, thanks Terry.=20 =20 I had checked out their website but if they post any prices or even list their felt products on there, they sure have them hidden. I emailed = them. Do you have to call them to order, THEN find out the cost? If so, that = would be very Steinway of them. =20 I guess for field repairs, one could dab on a little Titebond. =20 Alan R. Barnard Salem, MO -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of Terry Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 4:40 AM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: Where's the action (cloth)? Alan R. Barnard asks: =20 "Who sells Renner cloth?" =20 Ummmmmm......... Renner HYPERLINK "http://www.rennerusa.com"www.rennerusa.com . I just ordered some from = them a week or so ago. I assume you are speaking of action center bushing = cloth (that's the pre-glued stuff)? =20 "From those who use it, please: Bill Spurlock says to let the pre-glued stuff dry for "several hours." This would not seem to work if used for = field repairs or the RPT Technical ... thoughts?" =20 Yup, takes a few hours - at least. I just let it dry overnight. How well = do you know your client? =20 Might need to use plain cloth and hot hide glue - oops, there we go = again, now we've got to heat hot hide glue on-site - for one little action = center bushing? =20 Just might need to bring part back to shop, fix and return at a later = date. "Quality work can't be rushed!" Check out some of the piano = manufacturers web sites - I'm sure you'll find some good sounding stuff there from = their marketing departments.... =20 "What stock of sizes should one purchase, not for shop work but just the = odd field repair?" =20 I stock all of their one size - that way I can always have the right = size! =20 Terry Farrell =20 =20 =20 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.1 - Release Date: 03/09/2005 =20 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. 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