Where's the action (cloth)?

[Jerry Cohen]

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Alan,

 

I took my RPT exams last fall (both in the same day).

Titebond works well. Just pull the bushing cloth through the flange. Then
put a small dab of glue with a tooth pick on the cloth, just outside of each
prong of the flange. Then pull the cloth so the glue is in the flange.
Insert a pin for sizing, and let it dry while you do other tasks. After the
glue dries, remove the pin, cut the cloth with a sharp razor blade, and ream
the bushing for exact size. It's easy, so don't waste points on something
which is easy to do. As for cloth, Pianoteck bushing cloth works perfectly
well.

 

BTW, are you planning to attend the MARC convention in Penn. next month?
They give a fantastic all day technical exam prep class. I took it last
year. 

 

Jerry Cohen, RPT

NJ Chapter

 

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From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Alan
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:20 PM
To: 'Pianotech'
Subject: RE: Where's the action (cloth)?

 

Wow ... it IS hard to say things right and I missed the mark, too! I had
taken no offense at your post, mi amigo. In fact, I appreciated your reply,
as always.

 

Now the dilemma is that I'm soon to take the RPT Technical Exam (I know,
finally, at long last, what kept ya?) which requires rebushing a grand
hammer flange. No waiting overnight allowed, I'm told

 

In fact, a concern I have is that I will go to all the trouble to glue the
felt in then push out some of it out when I pin/ream/burnish the darn
thing--and then be out of time. So it may not be the best "shrink sized" or
"soft felt" center in the world, but I want something that will be adequate,
set up fairly fast, and HOLD. But no, I don't want to take a glue pot to the
convention just to make two little globs o' glue.

 

I'm thinkin' Titebond or maybe PVC-E.

 

What have others used in this kind of time-crunch repair? That's what I'd
like to know.

 

Alan R. Barnard

Salem, MO

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From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Terry
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 1:00 PM
To: Pianotech
Subject: Re: Where's the action (cloth)?

You are welcome. I apologize - sometimes I know my responses as a teeny
little bit smart a$$y. You are correct - their felt products are not on the
web site. I simply called them. You can order as many or as few as you wish.
Only one size. If I recall correctly, they are $2 per strip (but I could be
WAY off with that).

 

I honestly don't know how to rush drying the bushings. I've always just done
it in my shop and had the luxury of time. I'd be tempted to experiment with
other glues like Titebond in the shop first to make sure it didn't go too
far into the felt (maybe use sparingly and let air dry until tacky???).

 

Have you used the Renner bushing felt before? Be sure to use their training
tool (to get the felt to go through the flange easy. I pull my felt through
the flange, one cut, thread a bunch of flanges on a long center pin wire (or
individual wires), and then apply a 50/50 mix of water/alcohol and let dry
overnight. Works great. Depending on how much friction you are after
controls what size wire you use to for sizing. 

 

Terry Farrell

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From: Alan <mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net>  

To: 'Pianotech' <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>  

Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 12:58 PM

Subject: RE: Where's the action (cloth)?

 

Well, thanks Terry. 

 

I had checked out their website but if they post any prices or even list
their felt products on there, they sure have them hidden. I emailed them. Do
you have to call them to order, THEN find out the cost? If so, that would be
very Steinway of them.

 

I guess for field repairs, one could dab on a little Titebond.

 

Alan R. Barnard

Salem, MO

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From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Terry
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 4:40 AM
To: Pianotech
Subject: Re: Where's the action (cloth)?

Alan R. Barnard asks:

 

"Who sells Renner cloth?"

 

Ummmmmm......... Renner  www.rennerusa.com . I just ordered some from them a
week or so ago. I assume you are speaking of action center bushing cloth
(that's the pre-glued stuff)?

 

"From those who use it, please: Bill Spurlock says to let the pre-glued
stuff dry for "several hours." This would not seem to work if used for field
repairs or the RPT Technical ... thoughts?"

 

Yup, takes a few hours - at least. I just let it dry overnight. How well do
you know your client?

 

Might need to use plain cloth and hot hide glue - oops, there we go again,
now we've got to heat hot hide glue on-site - for one little action center
bushing?

 

Just might need to bring part back to shop, fix and return at a later date.
"Quality work can't be rushed!" Check out some of the piano manufacturers
web sites - I'm sure you'll find some good sounding stuff there from their
marketing departments....

 

"What stock of sizes should one purchase, not for shop work but just the odd
field repair?"

 

I stock all of their one size - that way I can always have the right size!

 

Terry Farrell

 

 

 

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