Defining terms was RE: Unison slump

[Joe And Penny Goss]

Hi fella, When using the shift/soft pedal in most grands the action slides
over to the right causing the hammers to hit in a different spot than at
rest, depending how much the pedal is depressed.
 So that if the strings and hammers are not level AND mated on each
unison---------.
I know you are very aware of this and wish that I could explain more clearly
but alas it is easier for me to show than write about it.
Joe Goss RPT
Mother Goose Tools
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan" <tune4u@earthlink.net>
To: "'Pianotech'" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 6:55 PM
Subject: Defining terms was RE: Unison slump


> Joe:
>
> I thought by "leveling" you meant making a sharper break (removing string
> curl) at the v-bar/capo/agraffe. Are you referring to something else or
are
> we speaking two different piano languages?
>
> As long as we are clarifying, I assume you mean "hammer to strings" or
> "strings to hammer" when you say "mate." Yes?
>
> When you speak of shifting keys (una corda, transposing), I think of
> "centering" hammers as part of "mating" hammers.
>
> I might be confused. Would NOT be the first time. <G>
>
> Alan R. Barnard
> A Little Sleepy in Salem, MO
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On
Behalf
> Of Joe And Penny Goss
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 7:47 PM
> To: Pianotech
> Subject: Re: Unison slump
>
>
> No, that is seldom needed,  as there are very few uprights that  shift
the
> action. I have only seen one. And that was on a transposing action. Joe
Goss
> RPT Mother Goose Tools imatunr@srvinet.com www.mothergoosetools.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alan" <tune4u@earthlink.net>
> To: "'Pianotech'" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 10:15 AM
> Subject: RE: Unison slump
>
>
> > Hey, Mom,
> >
> > Don't you want to "level" the upright strings, too? Forces and
> > materials involved are the same, oui?
> >
> > Alan R. Barnard
> > Salem, MO
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On
> Behalf
> > Of Joe And Penny Goss
> > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 8:18 AM
> > To: Pianotech
> > Subject: Re: Unison slump
> >
> >
> > Hi Terry,
> > In a grand, level and mate the strings of that unison. On an upright
> > mate the unison, Especially on  the firsttenor strings tenor. Joe Goss
> > RPT
> Mother
> > Goose Tools imatunr@srvinet.com www.mothergoosetools.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Terry" <terry@farrellpiano.com>
> > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 6:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: Unison slump
> >
> >
> > > When finding a unison that seems impossible to tune clear, I have
> > > learned
> > to
> > > quickly listen to the individual strings one at a time. Often you
> > > will
> > find
> > > that the string has a false beat or some other nasty noise that is
> > > amazing similar to the noise you hear when trying in vain to tune
> > > that unison.
> > When
> > > I find that, its time to quickly minimize the nasties and just move
> > > on....
> > >
> > > Terry Farrell
> > >
> > >
> > > > Something to try... sometimes I find myself "stuck" on one unison.
> > > Nothing
> > > > seems to work.  Following the "multiple passes is better" theory,
> > > > I move
> > > on
> > > > to the next one, and come back to it on the next pass.  A fresh
> > > > start
> > > helps
> > > > me lots of the time.
> > > >
> > > > --Cy Shuster--
> > >
> > >
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