Pictures of the old Pleyel action, was Re: How to apply graphite?

Alan Forsyth alanforsyth@fortune4.fsnet.co.uk
Sat, 12 Mar 2005 20:18:10 -0000


As far as I know, the action that Calin has is known as a breast action, 
taken from the shape of the jack; it looks like a chicken breast. The 
graphite should be on the surface of the breast part of the jack and not on 
the leather. This action can be found in early Bluthners.

The action that Michael G is referring to is called a French Crank or 
"Molyneux" action where the jack has a set off button that slides up the 
board. The whole board in this case is graphited. This action can be found 
in early Bechsteins with Schwander actions. Extremely difficult to regulate 
when action is worn. Needs lots of key dip to avoid hammer dither. Later 
versions progressed from using a flat board to a convex board to accelerate 
jack movement near the set off point.

AF

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Gamble" <michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk>
To: "Calin Tantareanu" <calin.tantareanu@gmx.net>
Cc: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: Pictures of the old Pleyel action, was Re: How to apply 
graphite?


> Hello Calin and List
> Yes, this:
>> The escapement is achieved by the jack sliding on a board with screws,
> is also a device used by early Broadwood uprights. I call it "Inclined 
> Plane Set-off"
> Broadwood also used the long centre-pin and brass "comb" flange affair.
> Regards
> Mihai G.(UK)
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Calin Tantareanu" <calin.tantareanu@gmx.net>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 10:55 AM
> Subject: Pictures of the old Pleyel action, was Re: How to apply graphite?
>
>
>> Ok, Here's a photo I took before starting work on the piano and 
>> dismantling
>> it to pieces.
>> For those who didn't follow the discussion, this is an approx. 1860 
>> Pleyel
>> upright, oblique strung, with no iron frame, just metal struts and a 
>> partial
>> hitchpin plate (pictures of it can be seen on my website).
>> Now to the action:
>> It has brass rails which hold the hammers and the wippens. The escapement 
>> is
>> achieved by the jack sliding on a board with screws, all covered by a 
>> long
>> piece of leather with slits. This leather is black in the attached 
>> picture.
>>
>> If there's interest, I can go and take some more pictures of the separate
>> parts, so you can see them better.
>>
>> Calin Tantareanu
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>> http://calintantareanu.tripod.com
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>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: David Ilvedson
>> To: pianotech@ptg.org
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: How to apply graphite?
>>
>>
>> Time for the digital camera Calin...
>>
>> David Ilvedson
>>
>
>
> 


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