I guess we'll have to wait to hear from Ric, but when I read his post, I envisioned 20-40 stabs. Period. Meaning that maybe 1/3 of the hammers would get one or two stabs. Ric? Terry Farrell I've hung 5 sets of Ronsen Wurzen's this summer. None needed any needling. The top half octave could have been treated a little but since they all were in practice rooms (5'10" pianos in 5'11" rooms!) I didn't do any treating. If I get any hammers that need 20 to 40 stabs I'll have to retire. I don't think my hands would do that. They're getting old! David M. Porritt, RPT Well, I ordered them from Ray @ Ronsen, and specified Wurzen when sending in the samples. I would guess this would make them Ronsen Wurzen? I sure wasn't thinking along the lines of 20-40 stabs per shoulder, though, with 3 needles in the voicing tool.... I really don't think I'm THAT far off, but we will see, I guess. Mark
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