---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Ric I received your apologies & I'm not surprised by your comments for I find them typical, but for the record It does seem to me that you enjoy taking pot shots at people who probalby really do know something based on not only theory but on a whole heck of a lot of expereince which you yourself confess you didn't have. Any way ,Thank you for the compliment for I'm always happy to be under the influence of innovative well thought folks in our field. I listen to them &then run it by my own expereince. For my self I have been under the influence of many other fine belly man including that of many greatly experienced but deceased belly men of the past who have used some of the designs called "Modern" that truly had magic sounds but were not conventionally excepted at the times But I listen to them anyway. I've written about them in the past often & in an open & fair minded way. They had ideas that were probably not popularized by convention at the time as is also the case now ,but those designs were mostly successful non the less. I.e.. The reverse crowned boards made by Becker, Sohmer ,Julius Bower& others. Every one which sings with incredible freedom but have yet to self destruct as was the concern. Those I've seen ,are still wholly intact. I listen to them. Also rib crowned boards from Knabe,Ludwig & others from the past with crown & magic sound still intact. I listen to them. Boards with taller than wider ribs seem to hold up exceptionally well in the crown & tone department. Other Makes such as Bluethner employed graceful sweeping cutoff bars as far back as 1905 which employ the use of shortened ribs for prolonged crown support. Un fortunately the ribs were not tall enough in this case to provide crown longevity but they were onto something & I listen to them. I've also installed at least 60 board of various designs , rib configuration & EMC levels. Used Every concievable varity of spruce. Panels of Thinner & thicker dimesions. Some tapered greatly others not much at all. They've each told me a story & so many things work. & yes, compresion crowned boards when certain Narrow parameters are met & extremes in climate have been mitigated . Many have wildly glorious tone , even when they're cracked up & lost significant crown/bearing. I listen to them too. I I've learned so much from John Hartman ,David Hughes, Nick Gravnge . The ever eloquent Robin Hufford is saying something currently I'm trying to understand as well. l listen to him as well & The list is long. What I want to say is quit pissin in the wind Brother & listen to what people are saying. Enjoy the collegiality of this list with out acting as if the facts & findings of others don't matter. Or that you ,I or we have to know the very last fact about soundboard mechanics before we can just sit back & enjoy the music of great piano music in different mechanical design features. I'll love the sound of any glorious sound coming out of a piano regardless of what design it has. I'm very unbiased about that. If you send me a case & want a C.C. board I'll make you one! ... happily. The modern thrust is how can we take the best of these ideas an move the design forward so that it holds up , gives repeatable consistent results & perhaps an even more incredible sustain or color. Just maybe.................... It's an art to agree to disagree with people & still be friends but at the end of the passionate or dispassionate discourse & discussion were all artisan with something to say. Including you. Your public opinions are well known so I don't consider your post or this one of mine here to be any more less appropriate than this Dale Erwin You wrote Yes, I remember that 3 years ago very well. You present post is the first I've seen that effectively counter addresses many of the claims that have been made by the Ron, Del, and Ron show... with supporting roles played by Terry and Dale. I get along very well with both Terry and Dale, and believe they are just under the influence of the other three, as there has been really no alternative for them. So I am greatfull that you are able to take the time. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/3b/0c/5b/15/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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