If the piano is unstrung, I measure torque directly, turning either way. If the piano is strung, I measure clockwise and then counterclockwise torque and average the two together - I figure that should subtract the string pull effect. And I think your figure is in the ballpark of what I have observed the difference to be. Terry Farrell > In measuring and reporting tuning pin torques what is the normal > assumption about the contribution of the string to the measurement? > This will provide about 35in.lb helping of hindering tuning pin > torque depending on the turning direction during the measurement. > Typical values are often mentioned, eg. "loose pins are when torque > is <50in.lb" "ideal tuning pin torque is around 100-150 in.lb range", > ">200in/lb torque is tight pins" and so on, without saying if these > are intended to be true torque (i.e. no string), or clockwise vs > counterclockwise with a strung pin at tension. The latter will vary > +/-35in/lb or so [for a typical full tension string]. I suspect the > reported pin torque values probably refer to counterclockwise and > strung pins, since it's more likely this is how they would be > measured [although not when re-pinning a pinblock of course]. So a > torque of say "50in.lb" woulld actually be a true torque of around > 85in.lb with just the pin. But I'm guessing this is the intent of the > reported numbers. > > Stephen > -- > Dr Stephen Birkett, Associate Professor > Department of Systems Design Engineering > University of Waterloo, Waterloo ON Canada N2L 3G1 > Director, Waterloo Piano Systems Group > Associate Member, Piano Technician's Guild
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