---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hi Andr=E9, I was about to respond to this thread but your response was much better=20= than what mine would have been. I have had limited experience with=20 B=F6sendorfer's - I haven't even played one in over 6 years, but I can't=20= remember any impressions of the lack of power. I was quite surprised=20 hearing people's comments. - John > But Joe, please allow me to say something... > > If that's your opinion about THE B=F6sendorfer grand, then how can it = be=20 > that at the same time I am of the opinion that B=F6sendorfers can make=20= > an awful lot of sound? > > I think we all agree that there is a difference between for instance=20= > THE Steinway sound and the sound of other brands and we all=20 > instinctively know what that difference is. The Steinway was built=20 > with pure power in mind. Every technical aspect of it points to the=20 > idea of creating tension and power, resulting in that booming Steinway=20= > we know so well. > For that reason, it has always surprised me that, although not with=20 > the same intensity and built differently, other brands are also=20 > capable of a roar. > Again, the transfer of power IS different and certainly not as=20 > efficient as the Steinway, but take for instance a good CFIII-S like=20= > the one built for Richter. Man, that was quite a machine! How about a=20= > well prepared Schimmel concert grand, a Kawai (although we hardly see=20= > them here), even a Petrof concert grand and... the B=F6sendorfer = concert=20 > grand. > I was for training at one time at B=F6sendorfer in Wien and I fell=20 > deeply in love with not only the character, but also with the warmth=20= > and the thundering power. Don't tell me that a B=F6sendorfer can not=20= > cope with a symphony orchestra. They sure can, but I think it is=20 > purely a matter of preparation, the regulation and the VOICING. > I have had the interesting educational experience that if you make a=20= > Steinway D very beautiful, voicing wise, the instrument can not cope=20= > anymore with an orchestra. When I experienced that for the first=20 > time, I was so embarrassed and worked all night long to improve the=20 > (percussive) power. Two days later, there was the next piano concert=20= > and then I was able to really hear and feel the sound of the D. A=20 > week later of more work, and it had become a booming canon. > In Wien, almost all the concert halls have B=F6sendorfers, obviously = you=20 > might say, but they sure are not made of wax. > I remember working on a Concert B=F6sendorfer here in Amsterdam. It = was=20 > brought in by B=F6sendorfer because the National Austrian Orchestra=20 > wanted to have a pitch of 445 Hz! I tuned it a couple of times to=20 > bring it up to the desired pitch and was amazed that evening by the=20 > power and clarity. > > See, that event got me thinking about how it can be that although this=20= > instrument differs so completely from Steinways, it still has that=20 > thundering power... in spite of spruce OUTER rims. (!) > > It is my personal experience that a well trained technician can make=20= > any instrument into a roaring dinosaur but within limits. I have=20 > listened to Richter on his famous Yamaha and there were moments where=20= > I began to doubt the ability of the treble to transfer that molest,=20 > because Richter could be a piano lion himself. Nevertheless, the=20 > Yamaha stood up against the violence and did not even get out of tune=20= > (wow). > > So I have come to the conclusion that very much depends on the=20 > technician, whether he/she is able to cope with the instrument. I=20 > think that is actually the most difficult task : to tame a lion so=20 > that it will lick your paws and mew for milk. > > friendly greetings > from > Andr=E9 Oorebeek= ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 3561 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/6e/5f/75/5c/attachment.bin ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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