Circle of Sound

[gordon stelter]

Hi Richard,
    As one who considers himself your "friend" I would
guess that Ron merely assumed that we all knew what he
was talking about when making these references: i.e.
sympathetic resonances, and that horrid, nasally mess
that comes from the string terminations on otherwise
pleasing, large Baldwins. 
     Perhaps he was merely assuming that we all had
more experience than we actually do? No crime.
     Thump

 
--- Richard Brekne <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no>
wrote:

> Hi Thumpy and others.
> 
> 
> It always amazes me how seemingly difficult it is
> for people to avoid 
> mixing the purely subjective with the objective in
> these disscussions. 
> Time and time again we hear how this or that idea or
> design is 
> <<better>>, or some simliar term.  Take Ron O's last
> post where he 
> compares some very basic design issues between
> Yamaha/Steinway -- 
> Bøsendorfer -- Baldwin -- and his own.  In an
> otherwise outstanding 
> posting...as usual (bow and nod sincerely) he
> includes the two following 
> comments..
> 
> "I remain highly suspicious of the tonal negatives,
> which I believe light plates bring to the mix."
> 
> "Another heavy plated and heavily rimmed piano which
> has quite outstanding tonal characteristics once 
> the duplex noise and other stringing and strike
> ratio issues are sorted."
> 
>   
> 
> Both of these are primarily statements that are
> clearly matters of 
> personal taste, yet they are presented as fact
> backed up by some very 
> light analysis of some basic physical functionings
> relating to the 
> plate/rim/soundboard.  What tonal negatives ??
> according to whom ??  
> What outstanding tonal characteristics... ??
> according to whom ??
> 
> Furthermore... none of these really offer us
> anything of value, if that 
> is to be defined as gaining an understanding as to
> what kind of specific 
> and objective tonal characteristics are achieved
> with this or that 
> particular change in any given parameter.  Why cant
> we just leave out 
> the judgemental bit.... and tell what we think
> something actually does.  
> Ok.. I understand any descriptive comment is bound
> to be a bit 
> coloured... but we could at least avoid such obvious
> declarations of 
> pure taste.
> 
> Dont get me wrong.... I have so much admiration for
> Ron N its absurd.  
> Seems lately I get into lots of trouble for mixing
> admiration for people 
> with personal observations about them that are of a
> more critical 
> nature... but I'll risk hitting the send button
> anyways. :) 
> 
> Cheers
> RicB
> 
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