---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hi Stephane I enjoy this post & your thoughtfulness to the subject. Just a couple Of= =20 comments interspersed below Stephane writes A soundboard is a filter (even a resonant one). No way all the energy of=20 the string will ever end up in acoustic energy, nor will the ineluctable lo= sses=20 ever be even through the scale. And that is great. A soundboard has a=20 personality that comes from what one would describe as defects in regard of= the=20 basis parameters. I would describe the personality of a board as the uniqu= e =20 blend it features between many more parameters, such as subtle and =20 aesthetically more or less interesting discrepancies curves in volume, susta= in and=20 evenness across the scale of each of the partials of each note, their thump= , and=20 the resonance's in release phase. Unfortunately (ah, maybe not), this is much less easy to have under control= ,=20 and leads us to humility in front of the miracle of nature, as there exist=20 some blends that make you believe in god, while others, uh, not really. ...>>>>> I agree in a way, that even with some tonal defects many older=20 boards have a charming musical quality about them, But When the defects bec= ome to=20 great however, which, is usually in the 5th & 6th and then into the 4th=20 octaves the quality of musical expression diminishes & that's when my ears=20= get=20 disinterested. Disinterest because of loss of sustain in the melody range w= hich=20 is replaced with the insidious thwacking percussive sound I can't voice out= =20 nor tolerate in music. =20 This being said, my opinion about old soundboards is that they have gathere= d=20 with time (cell crush, down in resine percentage, loss of elasticity,=20 whatever) a stronger and more unique personality, as defined here.=20 > I Assume you mean more personality than a new board. I think humbly, this conclusion is really subjective. If you mean a=20 stronger or more unique personality to that of a new rib crowned or redesig= ned=20 board system then I would ask if you've had opportunity to hear one of the= =20 boards( & personalities thereof) that many of us are producing in private s= hops=20 here in the U.S.=20 From the point of view of a winemaker he has had opportunity to taste goo= d=20 old wines & newer wines compare the two or many. He has a different=20 experience & exposure to many more expereinces than the casual wine drinker= who, may=20 think that two buck chuck ( cheap wine here) is a fine delicacsy. All this to say Many wonderful soundboard tones & personality comes in=20 many forms & flavors & many of those are new one off boards produced in sma= ll=20 shops. Ask Dave Andersen about new versus old. He didn't know if new could match= =20 or equal a really fine old board that had retained many of it's magic=20 properties. And now.................... =20 The whole life of a soundboard contributes to it's unique sound. This=20 doesn't mean that all personalities please me. But the personalities who d= o are=20 not at all the most powerful and long lasting and most even across scale of= =20 every parameter ones. The fact is that crown ,bearing & tone have a life span. My expereince her= e=20 in the U.S. is that many techs, dealers & general public simply want to giv= e=20 some unrealistic mystique & expectaion to a board that has out lived it's=20 life, performed well, but thru time lost it's vitality. The result of this=20= &=20 I see it ALL the time is that pianos that are "rebuilt" or rebuilt and sold= =20 under some B.S. notion that it has the original board & that old is superi= or=20 is disengenuos & ignorant at best & false advertising or fraud at worst. Many Folks are getting ripped off. It's very easy as a tech to fall into=20 the trap of giving an estimate of repair with the over optimistic idea tha= t=20 the old ,flat,cracked to smithereens board will somehow come to life if cer= tain=20 incantations are performed over it or magic varnish is applied. Know how I know??? Cause long ago I used to be there & was disappointed &= =20 my sleep suffered. =20 =20 =20 Same for old boards, in my opinion. When I hear an old piano in need of=20 restoration, I always take the time to tune it, and I can then hear, even w= ith=20 worn hammers, loss of crown etc. if the board has a personality (that is,=20 thus, a blend of so called defects) that makes me want to give it it's chan= ce to=20 appear in full monthly. If I don't feel it has potential, I don't buy it. Your ears are probably really good & you can hear it, meaning defects and= =20 loss of crown & tonal vitality.. For me I just had to get honest & put myse= lf=20 in the place of the poor trusting client and ask. Would I wanto to pay for=20 the product I was producing. After restoring everything else would I=20 compromise the very soul of the instrument. The answer became a resounding NO!! =20 Newer boards may or may not have personality. In my world, they are like=20 1m75 blondes with B2 breasts and sinusoidal shape at hips with 65 kg weight= and=20 red lipstick. Why do I prefer redheads with the nose slightly bent to the=20 left a tiny bit overweight and with intelligence in the look ? May I suggest Stephane, that it's possible the new boards you are hearing=20 probably do look like the blondes you describe. A good rib crowned new boar= d=20 however has a lot of personality & probably resembles your taste in redhea= ds.=20 Yeah Baby!!!!!! Friendly greetings back your way Dale =20 Friendly greetings, =20 St=E9phane Collin. =20 =20 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/7f/aa/7f/6d/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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