Disturbing Discovery, was Public Apology

[Alan Forsyth]

Alan Barnard wrote;

"Anyway, I think it's sad that we don't get good questions, comments, and
insights from all of these under-the-radar folks. Who are by no means all
newbies."

Unfortunately, there seems to be a tendency for a standard reply to a lot of 
questions such as "Do a search in the archives" or "Check in the PTJ Cd's.". 
That sort of reply kind of kills off the discussion instantaneously.

Some of those lurkers are not totally inactive. I have had many messages 
posted to me privately regarding a list topic.

AF

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan" <tune4u@earthlink.net>
To: "'Pianotech'" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 4:36 PM
Subject: Disturbing Discovery, was Public Apology


> This points out something that I've been meaning to post.
>
> I've talked to several techs who are strictly in the "lurker" category
> because, they admit, they don't want to expose themselves to the 
> occasional
> ego blasts, sharp rebukes, and whatthehelldoyouknow comments that pop up
> here now and again.
>
> Often, maybe usually, we really don't intend to come across that way
> (Richard's post a clear example) we just zip off some words without
> considering their impact. I know I've done it, and tried to chomp on some
> humble pie when I did (if I even realized or was told that I did). And 
> I've
> had my tongue stomped on a couple of times, too. It isn't pleasant
>
> On the plus side, we don't seem to be getting the all-out, one-on-one ego
> wars that were all too common a couple of years ago. So, maybe we're
> learnin' and growin'. Which IS the idea of the list, n'est pas?
>
> Anyway, I think it's sad that we don't get good questions, comments, and
> insights from all of these under-the-radar folks. Who are by no means all
> newbies.
>
> And, to you folks lurking out there beneath the cybersea, newbies and shy
> old pros, we'd love to hear from you. After all, sticks and stones can 
> break
> your bones, but blurbs will never hurt you, i.e., bits don't byte.
>
> Alan R. Barnard
> Thinkin' too much in Salem, MO
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On 
> Behalf
> Of Richard Brekne
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:36 AM
> To: Pianotech
> Subject: Public Apology
>
>
>
> Folks, and Nils Henrick Jansen in particular
>
> It has come to my attention that the following post conveyed a meaning
> about my colleague in town that I do not stand for whatsovever. It was
> late when I wrote these words, I was a bit out of sorts and it was meant
> to be included in the context of a private discussion where it would be
> far less easily misunderstood to begin with.
> That said... upon re-reading these words  I am very much ashamed of
> myself and wish to correct in anyones minds what my meaning was, and
> what my general respect for Nils is.
>
> The actual <<criticisms>> embodied below restrict themselves to the
> following.
>
> -- I was suprised that the years of Schimmel factory training had not
> resulted in a solid knowledge of key bedding.  The <<hasnt a clue>>
> comment is strictly confined to this.
>
> -- I noted that like many many techs out there (if not the majority)
> following recipies doesnt always take you where you want to go. An
> academic understanding of relationships beyond whats in the cookbook is
> more often then not lacking. It was in my own work for years to far to
> great a degree, and this seems to be a more widespread phenomenom then
> perhaps it should be.
>
> For anyone who may have any other impression as to my respect for Nils,
> especially any of you Norwegian readers out there, let me say the 
> following.
>
> Nils has been, is, and I sincerely hope will continue to be one of my
> absolute best pianotech friends. He has contributed to the music miljø
> in Bergen in a positive way on a level no other technician has done in
> the history of this town. He is an exceptionally good buisnessman as
> well as being a fine technician, and because of these attributes he has
> taken the only serious piano store in this region from near bankruptcy
> and extinction and turned it into one of the most thriving piano centers
> in Norway. He and I have traveled the US together where I encouraged and
> aided in his RPT status as well as sharing many wonderful adventures
> touring the Pacific Northwest.  He in turn has provided me with
> invaluable aid and encouragment in my own deveolpment, most notably
> recommending me for the Yamaha Academy despite the fact that I am not
> even an employee of his.
>
> Every technician has his own way of going about things, his own
> strengths and his own weaknesses, areas of expertise and holes in other
> areas.  Pointing out any precieved lack of expertise in no way is the
> same as lacking respect for the many areas of skill one otherwise
> posseses. Make no mistake about it. Despite my comments I have only the
> highest regard for Nils, both as a technician and as a friend.
>
> I understand that these formulations below may have injured that
> relationship severly, and knowing Nils, maybe fatally. I am deeply
> sorry, and thoroughly ashamed.
>
> In parting I would just like to say... its amazing what harm just a
> moments slack can cause yourself and others. I have come to love this
> list and the exchange of ideas and information it provides... yet it
> needs to be treated with far more respect then I have allowed it.
>
> Sincerely
> Richard Brekne
>
>
> Richard Brekne wrote:
>
>> Hi Quentin.
>> Thanks for the reply.  Got back from a chat with the dealer this
>> evening. He is a Schimmel trained tech, and I had to show him how to
>> do keybeding today... go figure.  He called me in because he had
>> decided that the keybed glide bolts were turned down too much, so he
>> had readjusted them and ended up mucking up my whole regulation. He
>> wanted to know how I set those and so I taught him what they showed us
>> at the Acadamy. When we were done the regulation was pretty much back
>> to how I had left it. It was really quite funny... this fellow goes
>> around the area here presenting himself as a piano god almost... and
>> he really doesnt have a clue about what he is doing.  All seat of the
>> pants and very much sticks to specifications and proceedures he
>> learned at Schimmel... but he doesnt understand any of it.  He just
>> follows recipies.  Sometimes they dont work for him very well.
>> Anyways... we decided to have another go at a C3 this time, and
>> combine my prep with his so we can see if we can end up with a good
>> routine for getting these things ready for sale.  But it looks like
>> about 15 hours on each.  We unboxed another one this evening... a C6.
>> Lots of problems here too.
>>
>> I dunno, maybe they send shit up here to Scandinavia. But it looks
>> like Yamaha is slippin to me
>>
>> Cheers
>> RicB
>>
>
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