hope its a free concert ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@sbcglobal.net> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:58 AM Subject: RE: Let's Get This Settled was How to explain a pitchadjustment..and! >A concert D that was 65 cents flat is not in the position to be a concert >instrument as far as tuning stability... > > David Ilvedson, RPT > Pacifica, California > > > > ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- > From: "pianolover 88" <pianolover88@hotmail.com> > To: pianotech@ptg.org > Received: 12/20/2005 10:04:47 PM > Subject: RE: Let's Get This Settled was How to explain a > pitchadjustment..and! > > >>Do you think that if a concert D that had to be tuned for a major recital, >>recording, etc., that was, say 65C flat would be perfectly stable after a >>single pitch raise and one fine tuning? > >>Terry Peterson > > > >>----Original Message Follows---- >>From: "David Love" <davidlovepianos@comcast.net> >>Reply-To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> >>To: "'Pianotech'" <pianotech@ptg.org> >>Subject: RE: Let's Get This Settled was How to explain a >>pitchadjustment..and! >>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:56:41 -0800 > >>My experience says it doesn't matter. Once you correct the pitch and do a >>fine tuning, all other things remaining constant, the piano will stay in >>tune. The piano doesn't really settle. Moving the piano cross country >>may >>challenge the piano in terms of EMC but nothing more. An upright can go >>out >>of tune with a move across the room because the four point weight bearing >>can tweak the stresses in the case a bit if the floor is not exactly >>level. >>The three point weight bearing of a grand makes it immune to such >>problems. > >>David Love >>davidlovepianos@comcast.net > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On >>Behalf >>Of Alan Barnard >>Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:25 PM >>To: Pianotech >>Subject: Let's Get This Settled was How to explain a pitch >>adjustment..and! > >>Terry's post begs the question (and please understand I ain't challingin' >>nobody on nuttin' ... I'm just seeking information and opinions and >>science, here) ... > >>Do a piano really need time to "settle" after .. > >>1. Big pitch change? >>2. Small pitch change? >>3. Moving it across country? (other than environmental acclimation) >>4 Moving it across the room? > >>I have been under the impression--and it may be altogether wacky--that >>every change that is going to occur in the piano occurs immediatly upon >>cranking the pin. I thought someone (Dr. Sanderson, perhaps) tested this >>and proved it. > >>So an adjunct question: Let's say we find a piano 15 cents flat. We pitch >>correct and fine tune and walk out the door with a follow-up appointment >>set for three months. When that day arrives, for those who have set such >>appointments, is the piano any flatter or more sour than it would have >>been >>if we found it A440 but still came back in three months? > >>Same question, only now the piano was originally 35 cents flat. 60 cents? >>120 cents? > >>Certainly I've restrung pianos and found them pretty sick in a couple of >>months but have always attributed that to new wire stretch, not tension >>settling. > >>Helmet on, raincoat on, rubber duckie in hand, I await your missives, if >>not missiles ... > >>Alan Barnard >>Salem, Missouri > > >> > [Original Message] >> > From: pianolover 88 <pianolover88@hotmail.com> >> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org> >> > Date: 12/20/2005 6:24:24 PM >> > Subject: Re: How to explain a pitch adjustment..and! >> > >> > Depending on the amount of PR, ususally more than 12C, I always >> > schedule >>a >> > "follow-up" tuning in 1-3 months, explaining that after restoring all >>that >> > loststring tension, the piano now must "settle" and adjust to that >> > added >> > tension, and it some shifting of will occur. So the follow-up is >> > crucial >>in >> > building long term stabilty. And that tuning will leave the piano much >>more >> > stable because tuning pin movement will be much smaller than during the >> > initial PR and tuning. Again, never a problem. Yes, it does help to >> > have >>a >> > high confidence level and be able to effectively communicate and impart >> > information to your client in a clearand concice manner. I am a >> > salesman >>as >> > well as a technician; that has made the difference between just getting >>by >> > to making a six figures. >> > >> > Terry Peterson > > >>_______________________________________________ >>pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > >>_______________________________________________ >>pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > >>_______________________________________________ >>pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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